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and he was utterly astonished to find such opposition, and vocated in such a spirit, the road, could it spcak, might from such a quarter, to this favorite work of the West. well exclaim, in the words of the Spanish proverb, Ile asked who would not pronounce the farmer insane “ Save me from my friends !” He had heard much, and who would throw obstructions in his own road to market? every body had heard much, of the prodigality of this And where was the difference between such an act and administration. The Executive had been made the unithe objections raised by western men to this road? versal scape-goat for all the national sins. But the gen

Mr. PARKS said it was now many years that the House uleman who declaimed so eloquently against the extravaliad been hearing of this Cumberland road; and every gance of the present Government could vote with the time they heard of it, they were assured that that was to utmost coolness to add $600,000 at a clip to the public be the last. It had been stated, he did not know with expenditure, and that for an object which had already what correctness, that 132 miles of this road had cost the consumed millions. What had New York done to merit Government two and a half millions of dollars. Accord-the manifestation of such a spirit as had marked the ing to estimates, which remained uncontradicted, the ex- speech of the gentleman from Ohio? When she had had pense amounted to $19,774 per mile! Now, he would her great canal in contemplation, she had applied to the Only call the attention of the House to a few plain facts, General Government for aid; and she had received none. which went to show the expense of making a good road She had, since that, accomplisherl, without it, a work in his own State. In consequence of some difficulty be- that was justly the pride, not of that State alone, or of the tween the United States and the Government of Great Union only, but of the age. And what bad she seen Britain as to the true northern boundary of the State of since? An attempt by the General Government to make Maine, (and consequently of the United States,) a fort had her canal-boats the subject of custom-house taxation. The been established in an uncultivated wilderness, seventy Government had had the magnanimity to say we will afmiles from any inhabitant. The transportation of provisions ford you no aid to construct your canal; but, when you to this post in the winter time, had at that time cost $120 have completed it from your own resources, we will tax a ton. It was at length determined to make a road from it for our revenue. It was the fortune, or rather the the settlements to this point. It ran through a tangled, misfortune, of New York to boast of a population of nearly uninhabited wilderness; and every ounce of provisions two millions, possessed of immense resources: and what consumed in its construction had to be carried to the had she received from the General Government? 3 or spot; some of the pork having been brought all the way 4,000 dollars for a little road to Sackett's harbor, to transfrom Ohio, by the way of New Orleans, to Bangor. Under port the guns of the army; and the erection of a customall these circumstances a road had been constructed, house to receive a large portion of the revenues of the which, for forty miles, was fully equal to the Pennsylvania whole country. IIe could not esteem it just or generous avenue, at the expense of $2,021 per mile. He had him in the gentleman to allude, in the spirit he had manifestself passed over the road the last autumn; and he assured ed, to the money spent on the State of New York. And the House, upon his honor, that such was the fact. It was he could not but repeat the expression of his deep regret not, indeed, á Macadamized road; but it was as good for at the tone and manner of the speech. It was illiberal all the uses of a public highway as it need to be; and and uncalled for. the State was ready to take it off the hands of the Goy Mr. BEARDSLEY said he was not in the habit of ernment and put it in complete repair for $6,000 a mile. speaking about the New York delegation. He trusted As to this Cumberland road, if the Government was in that they possessed a character that would exempt them deed bound by contract to make and keep up a road to from the necessity of saying any thing upon the subject. the Western States, the best and cheapest mode would As to the remarks of the gentleman from Ohio, he had be to make a new road entirely by the side of the old heard nothing from that gentleman to which he had any one. The 132 miles of road could be constructed for thing to object. He hoped the debate would be brought $266,000. The only end for which such an enormous to a speedy conclusion, and that the course of the public sum was asked must be, that the money might be squan- business would not be impeded by discussions respecting dereri in the neighborhood, to benefit gentlemen's con- the course pursued by the delegation of any State. stituents. He thought if any one thing under this Gov. Mr. McKENNAN said that, although the very existence ernment demanded reform, it was this eastern end of the of the prosperity of his constituents depended upon the Camberland road.

completion of the repairs of this road, yet he had studiMr. VANDERPOEL said that, though he had voted ously avoided entering into a protracted discussion of the for the larger sum proposed, he thought it his duty, on subject, knowing the importance of the time of the reflection, to pote for reconsideration. He was not op- House, and its impatience to have a vote on the question. posed to the road, nor did he repent of the expenditure We had not now l'isen to make a speech, but to make a of public moneys upon it; but he must think the amount very few remarks, which were called for by the violent now asked was too large. lle had no constitutional attack which had been made upon this road and its inscruples on the subject; on the contrary, he thought that terests. He said it would be remembered, by those with erery principle of justice and expediency demanded the whom he had the honor of serving in the last Congress, construction of such a highway between the Eastern and that it was on his motion the amendment was adopied in the Western portions of the Union. The State of New the appropriation bill, two years since, appropriating one York had constantly been engaged in the construction of hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the repair of this roads and canals, and had never expended any thing like road, under the laws of Maryland and Pennsylvania sich sums in proportion. The Chenango canal, extend- agreeing to take the road off the hands of the General ing ninety-six or one hundred miles, with with all its locks Government, and in future to save the treasury of the and all collateral expenses, had cost but a million. He must United States from the continual drain for that purpose. be permitted to say that, if the sums expended on this He wished now to state to the House that not one dollar portion of the Cumberland road had been put into the towards the substantial repair of the road had yet been hands of his Yankee friends, he had not a doubt that they laid out in his district-forty-four miles of the road had would, for that sum, have constructed a perfect Appian been untouched. He had urged the Department to apway across all the mountains of New England. He should ply a portion of the two former appropriations to the revole for the $300,000; but, had he been opposed to the pair of that part of the road; but the plan of making a bill, he should certainly have never been converted from thorough repair, commencing at Cumberland and going Lis opposition by such speeches as that of the gentleman west, so as to get up the toll-gates as soon as possible, from Ohio, (Mr. Vance.) If the measure was to be ad- was adopted, and his wishes and the wishes of his con

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stituents were defeated. Their claims were postponed; materials necessary to complete the repair; the price of and there is too much reason to believe that, if ihe ef. quarrying, hauling, breaking, and laying them on the forts of the chairman of the Committee of Ways and road; the sums necessary for graduating; the amount and Means [Mr. PolK) should be successful, to limit the price of masonry, &c. It will not do to condemn it by whole expenditure to three hundred thousand dollars, sweeping denunciations of extravagance. that that part of the road which lies between the Monon From this estimate, it seems that it will require $55,000 gahela river and the Virginia line will not be touched, to complete the section from Cumberland to Frostburg; or, at all events, will not be repaired in such a manner as $152,000 to complete that part lying between Frostburg to justify the commissioners appointed under the law of and the Maryland line; $47,000 from the Maryland line to Pennsylvania, to receive it from the hands of the Gov. the western base of Laurel bill; $58,000 from Laurel ernment. So far as the Department has gone, it will hill to the Monongahela river, including the bridge over be impossible to change the plan which has been adopt. Dunlap's creek; and $70,000 to finish that part of the road ed. The greater part of the road, from Cumberland to lying between the Virginia line and the Ohio river. Brownsville, bas been taken up, and they must proceed With these facts staring them in the face, he would ask to complete the repair according to the plan they have the House how they would undertake to limit the approadopted. A brief statement of the condition and pro- priation to the sum proposed, which would fall short of gress of the repairs will show this. In Maryland ten completing the parts referred to, and would leave forty miles have been finished; nine miles have nine inches of miles of the road through his district untouched? He metal; six miles six inches; ten miles are graded, and would appeal to the liberality and justice of the House on most of the materials are on the ground to complete it; behalf of his constituents, and trusted the appeal would making, in the whole, thirty-five miles. In Pennsylvania not be made in vain. But further: as a matter of econotwenty-two miles are finished; thirty-one and a quarter my, the sum proposed in the bill from the Senate ought to miles bave nine inches of metal; two miles have six be appropriated. Until the work is fully completed, the inches; eleven and a quarter miles, four and a half inches; Government of the United States cannot be relieved from the whole of the balance graded, and most of the materi- the burden of the road. He would not for a moment als are on the road, to complete it to the Monongahela harbor the idea that the representatives of the people river. In Virginia nine miles have been taken up and would abandon a work upon which so much money had partly repaired, much masonry and walling have been been already expended, and the benefits and advantages done, and materials collected.

of which had been tenfold more than all that it had cost. This statement has been furnished by the Engineer de. They would not, surely, permit a road to go to destruction partment, and will be found correct. It will be readily upon which the great mail is carried twenty-eight times a seen, then, that the plan of repairing that part of the week, and which forms the line of connexion between the road which has been commenced cannot now be altered; Atlantic and the extensive valley of the Mississippi. Unit must be completed as it has been begun; and a recur- less, then, a sufficient sum be appropriated to put the road rence to the detailed estimate, which has been laid upon into a good state of repair throughout, it will not be taken the tables, shows that the whole $300,000, to which it is under the care of the States; toll-gates will not be erectproposed to limit the appropriation, will be required to ed, and it must be kept up by the funds of the Governcomplete, in a proper manner, what has been commenced, ment. From this burden the friends of the road wish to reand is still in an unfinished state. lle begged to refer to lieve the treasury, and a strict regard to economy requires that estimate, as furnishing the only safe basis of calcula- that we should not stop till the repairs are fully completed. tion to the House in making the appropriation. It is made He therefore implored the friends of internal improveout by Captain Delafield, who is an intelligent, skilful, and ment, and of this great work, as well as all those who experienced engineer; has been for two years employed wish to relieve the treasury from any future drafts upon upon the road, and must be presumed to be acquainted it, to resist the attempt which is now made to reconsider with the prices of labor, of materials, and of the difficulty the vote of yesterday. of procuring them, and with every thing connected with No apprehension need be entertained by those who are the prosecution of the work. Surely, vastly more reliance afraid that the funds in the treasury will not meet the is to be placed upon his opinions and upon his estimates, expenditures for the present year. The whole sum of than upon the wild conjectures and crude notions of either $652,000 cannot be profitably employed, and it is not proof the gentlemen from Kentucky, (Mr. HARDIN and Mr. posed to draw from the treasury more than $300,000 duChilton,) who had, to his astonishment, felt it their duty ring this season. And, in order to remove all apprehento join the enemies of improvement in declaring war upon sions from the minds of some that the States of Pennsylthis road. He coukl not refrain from expressing bis sur-vania aud Maryland will not accept the road, from the prise at the course they had taken, inasmuch as the State hands of the Government, even if the sum contained of Kentucky was as much if not more interested in keep in the bill should be appropriated, he would state that ing up the line of connexion between the Atlantic cities the friends of the work were perfectly satisfied to acand the Ohio river than any of the Western States. They cept the amendment offered by the gentleman from New had undertaken to pronounce every thing connected with Jersey, (Mr. DICKERSON,] which provided that 350,000 this repair as extravagant and monstrous; and they did so dollars of the sum appropriated should be retained in without having the means of forming a correct judgment the treasury till those States shall agree to accept that sum as to the expense of materials, and the difficulty of pro- in full of the amount which may be required to complete curing those of a proper quality throughout the mountain- the repairs, according to the requisitions of their respect. ous region. For one, he said, he was not disposed to ive acts. He did not consider it necessary, inasmuch as yield bis assent to their sweeping denunciations of the offi- it was the interest as well as the duty of the commissioncers who had been employed in this service, and whose ers who have been appointed by those States to accept means of correct information, upon which the House could the road and proceed to the erection of toll-gates so soon rely, were vastly superior to theirs.

as the road is placed in good travelling condition. But, to He begged leave, then, to refer to the detailed estimate place the matter beyond all doubt or question, the friends which has been submitted by the Department, as furnish- of the measure were perfectly willing to accept of the ing the only safe data of calculation upon which the House amendment before referred to. could act. He asked gentlemen to take that estimate and He concluded by repeating a hope that the vote would point out its errors. it is minute and particular; divides not be reconsidered, but that the appropriation of $652,000 the road into sections; shows the quantity and kind ofl would be permitted to stand.

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Mr. HARDIN opposed the appropriation, and went From that sum, if we deduct the amount reinto a constitutional argument to prove that the General quired for ordinary expenditure in the Government had no right to construct any road within the

year 1834, viz: territory of the States, save for military purposes or the For payment of public debt, $4,995,082 conveyance of the mail. He repelled the charge of in-Civil, foreign intereourse, and consistency, and insisted that the interests of the West miscellaneous,

2,597,285 called for no such road to an eastern market. If a wall Military establishment, including could be built between the Eastern and Western States, internal improvements,

7,997,630 as high as the Andes, then the products of the West would Naval establishment and marine all go to New Orleans, where the God of Nature intended corps,

3,551,073 that they should go. The great evil, at present, was that, Revolutionary pensions,

3,000,000 while their exports went to the South, their imports came

22,141,070 from the East. He inveighed against the extravagant cost of the road, and compared it with that of the Guyan

$6,842,720 dotte road through Staunton, the whole of which had cost And we have $6,842,720 to meet such appropriations as but $200,000.

Congress may think proper to make, for what the genMr. LOVE made some further explanations in reply, tleman terms "extraordinary purposes.” of that sum, which he concluded by observing that he would allow the friends of this bill ask only for $300,000, to be exto the advocates of strict construction twenty years to go pended in the year 1834; and, in justification of this reupon their principles, after which he was well persuaded quest, they exhibit, he repeated, not the crude calculathey would return to the way of their fathers.

tions of members on this floor, but the estimates and Mr. THOMAS replied 10 Mr. CAMBRELENG, and in- calculations of the Department of War. sisted he was not authorized to characterize the bill under Mr. POLK, in reply to Mr. STEWART, insisted that, if consideration as one which proposed extraordinary ap- $200,000 was all that was needed during the present propriations, or as a measure to be classed with the bills year, it was unreasonable and improper to call for an apon the table for the benefit of the District of Columbia. propriation of $600,000 at this time. As to what had The latter had their origin in the committee of this House, been said with regard to the prospects of surplus reveand were not, of course, included in the estimates of pub- nue, gentlemen ought to look at the other side of the lic expenditure for the year 18.34, which had been sent account, and consider what vast sums had already been to us by the Secretary of the Treasury in December last. appropriated by the legislation of the House. The bills Neither were they founded on estimates from either of which are already passed, exclusive of the Indian annuithe other Departments of the Government. But, sir, ties, amounted to upwards of $9,000,000. The annuity what are the facts in relation to the bill before us? It bill would make the amount over $12,000,000. Then, provides for an appropriation of $652,000 for the repair $3,000,000 more would be required for the pensions unof the Cumberland road east of the Ohio; and an appro- der the act of 1832; then the fortification bill called for priation of $450,000 more for the continuation of the same $900,000; the old harbor bill near $1,000,000; besides road through the States of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. which, there was the new harbor bill, the light-house bill, Both these sums are founded on estimates from the War the bills for territorial expenses, besides $5,000,000 to Department. The gentleman from New York is, then, meet the public debt payable on the 1st of January next. not correct when he places the bill we are examining in Let any man make the calculation, and he would find the same class with those by which Congress proposes to that the appropriations were like to exceed the receipts relieve this oppressed District. He has committed another of the Government. Why, then, lock up these $600,000, mistake, by saying that no part of the sum of $1,102,000 when $200,000 was all that could be expended this seacontained in this bill is included in the estimates of the son? Gentlemen must not debate this bill as if it involved Secretary of the Treasury of expenditures for the year the issue of internal improvements or no internal improve1834. Mr. T. said he had the estimates of the Secretary ments. It was merely a question as to sum and time. of War in his hands. We there find the following sums He hoped the reconsideration would prevail. required:

Mr. WAYNE was aware of the manner in which this Por continuing the Cumberland road in Ohio,

road had become so burdensome to the Government, and west of Zanesville,

$200,000 feared that they should not very readily get rid of the For coutinuing the Cumberland road in Indiana, 150,000 burden. He admitted the propriety of appropriating, For continuing the Cumberland road in Illinois, 100,000 but could not consent to the larger sum asked.


ted the report of the chief engineer, to show that the This sum of $450,000 is included in the estimates of the

whole sum could not with advantage be expended this Secretary of the Treasury, and in the $1,102,000 pro- minded them that it was but six months till there would

He called upon the House to be cautious; reposed to be appropriated by this bill. The inaccuracy of be another session of Congress, and thought it would be the gentleman, therefore, in this particular, is obvious; proper to insert a condition that the States should agree and his effort, by this means, to embarrass the friends of to take the road as soon as the sum estimated by the this bill, must be abortive. The attempt he has made to chief engineer had been applied. He noticed that, alprejudice the House against this bill, by awakening an though the completion of the road west of the Ohio was apprehension that the receipts of the treasury will be to be placed under the inspection of an engineer of the inadequate to meet contemplated expenditures, would, United States, the bill contained no such provision as Mr. T. said, be equally unavailing. The available funds in the treasury on the 1st

to that portion of it which lay east of that river. He quo

ted documents, to show the miserable manner in which January, 1834, amounted to

$7,983,790 the road bad been constructed in Indiana and Illinois. The receipts into the treasury from all

Mr. ASHLEY explained on that subject, and stated sources, during the year 1834, were, in the annual report of the Secretary, esti

the utter incompetence of the persons who had beenremmated at

ployed to construct that part of the road. 18,500,000

Mr. WAYNE, after some further remarks, concluded To which the report of the Secretary of the 16th of June, instant, authorizes us to add 2,500,000 priated that would be sufficient to carry on the work un

by recommending that the smallest sum be now appro. $28,983,790 (til the next session of Congress.

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Mr. PEARCE, of Rhode Island, after adverting to the not now enter into the argument on that subject. He great length of the debate, demanded the previous ques- forebore, in consequence of the lateness of the bour, from tion; which was seconded without a count.

doing any thing more than merely oflering the amendThe previous question was accordingly put and carri- ment. ed; and the main question, which was on reconsidering, Mr. BEARDSLEY approved the principle of the being put, Mr. DAVENPORT demanded the yeas and amendment, but thought that it did not go so far as he nays.

desired. He had drawn up an amendment, which he Mr. THOMAS moved a call of the House, but it was would offer if this should fail, declaring that Congress negatived; and the question was decided by yeas and does unconditionally assent to the acts of Maryland and nays, as follows: Yeas 101, nays 96.

Pennsylvania. So the llouse agreed to reconsider.

Mr. W. COST JOHNSON said that he would vote for The question was then put on Mr. Polk’s amendment, the amendment, if the amount appropriated were ade. reducing the appropriation to $300,000, and agreed to. quate to fulfil the condition on which alone Maryland had

Of course, the amendments moved by Mr. SUTHERLAND agreed to take the road, viz: that it should be put in perand Mr. Dickenson, of New Jersey, fell, having nothing fect repair; sbould be examined and approved, and furto which they would apply.

nished with toll-gates and toll-houses. But being conMr. MCKENNAN now moved to strike out the words vinced that the amount was inadequate, and that his State “ for the entire completion,” and also to strike out the never would take the road unless more should be done, fourth section of the bill.

he was constrained to vote against it. The law giving her Mr. ELLSWORTII said he had been in favor of giving assent at all had not been passed without great difficulty, 600,000 dollars, provided the road was then to be taken and he was well assured that ber assent would never be off ihe hands of the Government. He was now unwilling yielded to receive the road in a state of imperfect repair. to appropriate without kuowing when there was to be an Mr. ELLSWORTH objected to the amendment, beend. He could not give even the reduced sum without cause it contained the implication that, in its preceding the limitation; and he should therefore be constrained to acts concerning this road, Congress had been guilty of a vote against the present amendment.

violation of the constitution, and that the General GovMr. GHOL.SON thought that this was the time to as- ernment had no power, under any circumstances, to concertain whether Congress meant to persevere in appro- struct a road in a state, even for military purposes or the priating for this road, or would now yield it up to the transportation of the mail. Such an implication unnecesStates. He therefore wished to move an amendment to sarily embarrassed the bill. the amendment; but which the Chair pronounced to be Mr. MERCER objected to the use of the word jurisdicnot now in order.

tion, as employed in the amendment. He had always Mr. ADAMS called for a division of the question; and, thought that the United States Government possessed a it being divided accordingly, the question was first put on qualified jurisdiction over every foot of the territory of striking out the words " for the entire completion.” the Union, and beyond it to a certain distance on the sea.

Mr: BEARDSLEY said he bad voted against the re. But the amendment denied any jurisdiction of any sort, consideration, but he could not vote for the present and involved the doctrine that the Government could not amendment.

punislı any crime, not even treason, if committed on any Mr. MCKENNAN demanded the yeas and ways, ob- portion of this road. serving that, if the proposed words were stricken out, the

Mr. GHOLSON, in reply, denied any averment that all bill would then be in the form in which the Committee the Government bad done respecting this road had been of Ways and Means had reported it.

done in violation of the constitution. The amendment The question was then put, and decided, by yeas and only went to relinquish all the authority which had been nays, in the negative: Yeas 93, nays 115.

claimed. As to the criticism of his colleague, it was asThe question being on striking out the fourth section tonishing to him that the acute mind of that gentleman of the bill, Mr. GHIOLSON now offered the following did not perceive the distinction between jurisdiction over amendment:

crimes and jurisdiction over a road. The jurisdiction “ That, from and after the expenditure of the money referred to in the amendment was that over the road alone, herein appropriated, all jurisdiction and authority what- which might be relinquished without, in the slightest deever, beretofore claimed for the Federal Government over gree, impairing the criminal jurisdiction of the Governor in relation to the said Cumberland road, be, and the inent. The amendment of the gentleman from New York same are hereby, for ever surrendered and abandoned.” [Mr. BEARDSLEY] applied only to one portion of the road,

Mr. VANCE said that tbis scction Jiad been added, un his own to the whole. der the expectation that $600,000 was to be appropriated. Mr. EWING said that the subject had now arrived at The Ilouse had agreed to give but half that sum. They its crisis, and he should now offer a resolution), recognising might retain the section if they pleased. All he knew the compact of the General Government with the States was, that $300,000 would never complete the roadl, and of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois, and denying its right to he felt very certain that the States would not, in that case, surrender the road, unless completed to the satisfaction agree to take it off the hands of the Government.

of all the States concerned. Mr. E. presented to Con. Mr. GHOLSON said that several of his friends had sug- gress a serious question which might arise, and which it gested to him that the amendment he bad proposed was, was necessary to have clearly understood, lest the faith of in effect, equivalent to the section at present in the bill; the Government should be forfeited, and injury commit. but in this they were mistaken. The section did not re- ted. Gentlemen bad talked of constructing a road for peal the act of Congress of 1832, which act bad declared $4,000 a mile. , All he insisted on was, that the road! tint Congress might reassume its jurisdiction over the should be placed in perfect repair. If gentlemen could roud, if the States should not, in its judgment, act wisely do this for $4,000 a 'mile, he had no objection. Ile dein their management of it. His amendment did repeal nied the right of the Government to relinquish the road, this act. He was for doing nothing by indirection. His unless by a new compact with the Western States. if the meaning was, and he openly declared it, that Congress Government would make a new bargain, and give up its should abandon and for ever surrender this road. If the right to hold the public lands untaxed, good and well; it States were to take it, let them take it with that under- was just what he desired.. The States would then have standing, and not, on any condition, that their acts were their own soil, without begging any part of it as a boon subject to the supervision of Congress. Mr. G. would from Congress. They were not beggars by habit, and

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fewer beggars were to be found at the West than were those relating to the Territories, being of local interest, to be found in this District. Mr. E. predicted that would be neglected. the veto doctrine would pass away, that the road to MI. POLK objectingBuffalo would yet be constructed, and that the day would Mr. SEVIER entreated the House to consider that, if come when the representatives of the people would glory these bills were now passed by, as the bank or deposite in having constructed it. The gentleman from Kentucky bill would have to be acted upon after the appropriation [Mr. Handen) might now withhold his aid; but he might bills, any postponement now would have the effect of a hereafter reflect upon bis vote with less satisfaction. A perfect veto on all the bills in relation to the Territories. contract and bargain had been made and sealed with the The House, however, on motion of Mr. POLK, susWestern States for the right of highway, and they had pended the rule for the purpose of considering the apgiven up the taxes to obtain it. If our side of the bargain propriation bills. was to be relinquished, the other must also. For such a

HARBOR BILL, measure, he would go heart and hand. If the gentleman from Virginia would vote for Mr. E.'s resolution, he would The bill making additional appropriations for certain vote for his amendment.

harbors, and removing obstacles in rivers, for 1834, was Mr. GILMER inquired of Mr. Guolson whether an then taken up. Several verbal amendments made in amendment to this effect would not suit him better than Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union havthat he had offered? That, as soon as the sum appropria-ing been concurred in, ted should have been expended on the road, the United

Mr. HUBBARD moved that the House should not conStates would thenceforth cease to interfere with the juris cur in an amendment increasing the appropriation for diction and right of soil of the States through which the the removal of “the raft” or obstruction in the Red road passes.

river from $30,000 to $100,000. Mr. GHOLSON said he had no choice between the Mr. POLK, chairman of the Committee of Ways and amendments-either would meet his wishes.

Means, opposed the amendment. The House had heard The question being on the amendment proposed by Mr. a letter from the superintendent of the work, in support EWING

of the motion of the member from Louisiana; but it would Mr. McKIM moved the previous question, which was be borne in mind that that was a lelter addressed merely seconded: Ayes 102.

to a private member of the House. No such communiThe previous question having been put and carried, cation had been made by the Department to the Committhe main question, on ordering the bill to its engross-tec of Ways and Means; por bad any such sum been rement, was carried by yeas and nays: Yeas 127, nays 72. commended to Congress by that Department. He called

So the bill was ordered to be engrossed for its third upon the House to keep down the amount of money to reading

be appropriated by this bill, and not to swell it by adopting every suggestion made by members for objects in

which their own constituents might bave a peculiar inte. WEDNESDAY, JUNE 18.

It had been too often the practice in times past to

load down the barbor bill in this manner, so as to endanPUBLIC LANDS.

ger, if not entirely prevent, its passage. The Department Mr. DICKERSON moved that the House reconsider had set down the amount required for this object of exthe vote by which the bill to reduce and graduate the penditure at $25,000. The committee, however, in price of the public lands was yesterday laid on the table. consequence of representations made to them, bad con

The bill and amendments thereto having been read cluded to exceed that amount somewba', and had inserted

Mr. PATTON said that it was perfectly manifest there $30,000 in the bill, as by them reported to the House. It was not time now left to consider the various projects was now asked, on the authority of a private letter, at connected with the subject of the public lands, and once to swell the sum to $100,000. He hoped the amendwhich must inevitably come up, in discussion if the ment would not prevail, and ibat it would not be made an House should rescind their vote by which the subject occasion of prolonging the debate. was laid ou the table. It was a question admitted to be Mr. HAWES said that he hoped that that portion of of importance to every Stale in the Union, and he thought the House which was desirous of seeing the removal of was therefore of too inuch importance for the llouse to this raft completed, and who did not wish to see Conbe dragged into a discussion upon at the heel of the ses- gress called upon year after year to make fresh approprision, when members were but too generally unwilling to ations for this object, as had been the case with the cuntolerate the deliberation and discussion which it was all- berland road, io concur with him in supporting the important to give it. lle therefore moved to lay the mo- amendment now proposed. Did gentlemen forget the tion to reconsider on the table.

important fact which had been stated and explained by Mr. WILLIAMS, believing this to be a most important the gentleman from Louisiana, [Mr. GanLAND,] that this question, and one upon which it was necessary to have a raft was increasing at the rate of three miles every year, full and distinct expression of the opinion of the House, by the accumulation of floating timber at its upper extremmoved a call of the House for that purpose; which was ity? Loss of time, under such circumstances, was loss onlered, and the House was called accordingly. of money. The work to be done was increasing every

The motion to lay the motion to reconsider on the table hour. From the explanations which bad been given it was decided in the affirmative: Yeas 111, pays 87. was clear that, of the $30,000 proposed in the bill, not

So the House refused to reconsider the motion to lay more than $15,000 would or could be expended upon the the bill upon the table.

work itself, the rest being necessarily consumed in the Mr. SEVIER expressed his hope that the bills in rela preparations unavoidably necessary beforehand. Wlietion to the Territories would be taken up, that they might ther the men worked at the raft a longer or a shorter be passed upon, and those which were approved be sent time, they had to be collected and transported from a to the Senate for concurrence.

great distance to the spot. If the $100,000 now asked for Mr. POLK desired to have the appropriation bills pro- should be granted, that sum would be sufficient to ceeded with.

open a passage quite through the raft, and the accumulaMr. SEVIER said there was little doubt that, as the tion of timber above would immediately cease. But, if appropriation bills were of general interest, they would the sum proposed by the committee should be all the certainly be taken up before the adjournment; whilst | House allowed, the same work, from the delay, the ac

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