that kind of vision is saying. And I know that is a tough vision to live out. But it seems to me it is our only option, and we need desparately to have spokesmen for this kind of vision. Territorial discrimination is as evil as reparable discrimination. Every human being on this planet has the right to live, not the way the Catholics define it narrowly, but simply in terms of a basic life, which would mean that food is certainly part of the right to life, and, therefore, sharing it is not an option of charity but an obligation of justice. If we define problems in this fashion we will find solutions, and we will have perhaps instead of a private food reserve, and instead of national food reserve we will have a world food reserve and we will seek deliberately to put it under world auspices so it can reflect more accurately the type of global community in which we believe.

REDUCING ARMAMENTS TO FINANCE DEVELOPMENT

Certainly I would argue that we work very quickly to reduce the armaments in this world. I do not see how we can go on with what we are doing now. It simply proves that society like misery likes company, and maybe a 10 percent reduction of the world military budget will be the best way to finance long-term development under terms which the U.N. may be able to work out, given the news in the morning paper. My concern, as I said at the beginning, is not with the nuts and bolts. It seems to me we need to have a moral reality that is more coherent; we need to have a global vision which makes sense. I would hope that the spies in the promised time will come back and say to the American people that the promised time is better than the good old days. We now have a world; we created a world for all of us. Thank you very much.

The CHAIRMAN. Thank you, sir. Now we will hear from Mr. Brown of Brookings Institution.

STATEMENT OF SEYOM BROWN, BROOKINGS INSTITUTION

Mr. BROWN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the committee. I am honored to be able to share some of my views about the world crisis and the U.N. with you this morning. Let me relate to the phrase of Reverend Coffin that the whole cannot protect itself against the parts. That recognition, that realization, I think, is becoming shared by more and more people today. There is a recognition, universally, that the need for international cooperation is essential, yet the United Nations system, the main hope for protecting the whole against the parts and also for protecting the legitimate rights of the parts, the U.N. system is in its deepest trouble vet. Ironically, when its prestige is at its low mark, the U.N. system is more implicated in world politics and economics than at any time since its founding. This is what is alarming-the fact that it is more needed just at the time. that there is more despair about its ability to perform these needed tasks.

And I gather that it is this problem, this paradox, that is the reason why the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is devoting special attention to this problem today; and I also assume that this is the reason why someone with the perspicacity of American Ambassador Moynihan seems to have an itch to participate in U.N. debates. The U. is where the action is more so than ever before.

ized, as so many societies were, between the Marxist than Leninists and the Fascists.

The essence of the American response, the American progressive re sponse, to populist militism, has been, first, increased accountability of the priviliged and the powerful to wider public interest and institu tionalization of such increased accountability. That was the first par of the American response. Second, allowing greater participation by the otherwise alienated in the processes of politics and government.

ADOPTING A PROGRESSIVE RESPONSE TO NEW INTERNATIONAL POPULISM

I believe that an equally progressive response to the new interna tional populism could build on the American democratic experience The hallmarks of such a response would be U.S. open support fo strengthened norms and processes of international accountability, an support for greater participation by the developing countries in in portant international negotiations and institutions.

A posture of international progressivism would mean that th United States would commit itself internationally to the basic ethic principle of progressivism in our own society, to the principle the those whose action substantially effect others should accord the a fected parties a role in the decision processes related to the actions. A a principle, this would obligate governments, and international inst tutions, to consult with those whom they effect. A fuller implement tion would accord the affected parties decisionmaking weight corr sponding to the degree to which they are affected. We should deman this kind of international accountability from others, too. Certain from the OPEC nations who are not acting in a way that is accoun able to those whom they affect. But we have to be willing, I sugges to take the first steps. To demand that the OPEC countries act in a cord with the principles of international accountability now that the oil pricing policies substantially effect the U.S. economy is only to i vite the outraged retort of the Venezuelan President: Where we you when we were screaming about the price of your industri exports?

Understandably, others can now accuse us of saying what is mi what is yours is international.

Now, our present ambassador to the U.N. flails out against t tyranny of the majority; but have we, when we were in the majorit refrained from imposing our will on strongly motivated minoritie

Our top foreign policy officials worry most today about the loss U.S. credibility. How about the credibility of the U.S. commitments international processes of dispute resolution and peaceful change? T threats to U.S. security posed by a general deterioration of intern tional order, by a lack of international accountability in today's wor these threats are more real and loom larger in the years ahead than a fantasy of falling dominos.

The threat to the U.N. is only a part of the general crisis in the i ternational system. The international populists are able to exploit th crisis because of the vacuum in progressive leadership by countries li the United States.

A U.S. posture of progressive international accountability, has in plications, of course, beyond the way we might conduct ourself in U..

resolutions some of which, while they may have no means of practical implementation, can reenforce the emotional bonds among the populist coalition and spotlight the isolated position of the United States at

the same time.

The Arab countries have played upon the populist coalition to good effect for their own causes. They have identified themselves with the populist coalition, and this has allowed them to swing that coalition in back of their vendetta against Israel.

China has tried to effect a similar mobilization of the populists to its side in its conflicts with the Soviet Union but with less success than the Arabs, because the Soviet Union itself usually takes every opportunity to vote with the populist coalition.

INADEQUATE U.S. RESPONSE TO NEW INTERNATIONAL POPULISM

Now I am not most concerned with the fact of international populism, which I believe is a historically inevitable reaction to the dismantling of colonial empires, to the enfranchisement of people internationally who have not had a right even to express themselves, but I am most concerned rather, with the wholly inadequate responses to it, thus far, by this country. The responses to it by this country, thus far, indicate a pessimistic attitude, a withdrawal in a sense from what is really happening in the international system.

There is an exception. Ambassador Moynihan thinks he has found. an appropriate response to the third and fourth world militancy which find its most expression in U.N. forums today. Moynihan traces this militancy to the Fabian socialist ideology of former British subjects who are now leaders of some of these new states. He would do just as well to blame the militancy in the former French colonies, on the French Jacobins, and radical nationalists in Latin America on Simon Bolivar. Woodrow Wilson should also be given some of the credit for the rise of this international militancy.

Moynihan's prescription presented in the "Commentary" article of March 1975, which I am sure many of you have read, is to stop appeasing the third and fourth world ideologues, and to go into opposition.

With what? Well, with a kind of a pudding of Burkean political conservatism to counter the new Jacobins and economic liberalism, ala Adam Smith, to combat the egalitarian state socialism of the new Fabians.

If only we could overcome this U.N. crisis by debate and ideological confrontation in the General Assembly; but the U.N. crisis has its sources in the structural upheavals of world society. Perhaps we can ind the guide for constructively responding to these structural upheavals which are the source of the new international populism by ooking to our own domestic experience with analogous pressures. After all, instead of Jacobinism or monarchical restoration we proluced Jeffersonianism. The bitter populism in the late 19th century which threatened to tear apart our civil society was supplanted by he progressivism of Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson. Again, he New Deal was the progressive response to the great world depresion of the 1930's, which otherwise might have left the society polar

ized, as so many societies were, between the Marxist than Leninists and the Fascists.

The essence of the American response, the American progressive re sponse, to populist militism, has been, first, increased accountability of the priviliged and the powerful to wider public interest and institu tionalization of such increased accountability. That was the first part of the American response. Second, allowing greater participation by the otherwise alienated in the processes of politics and government.

ADOPTING A PROGRESSIVE RESPONSE TO NEW INTERNATIONAL POPULISM

I believe that an equally progressive response to the new interna tional populism could build on the American democratic experience The hallmarks of such a response would be U.S. open support for strengthened norms and processes of international accountability, and support for greater participation by the developing countries in im portant international negotiations and institutions.

A posture of international progressivism would mean that the United States would commit itself internationally to the basic ethical principle of progressivism in our own society, to the principle that those whose action substantially effect others should accord the af fected parties a role in the decision processes related to the actions. As a principle, this would obligate governments, and international institutions, to consult with those whom they effect. A fuller implementa tion would accord the affected parties decisionmaking weight corresponding to the degree to which they are affected. We should demand this kind of international accountability from others, too. Certainly from the OPEC nations who are not acting in a way that is accountable to those whom they affect. But we have to be willing, I suggest to take the first steps. To demand that the OPEC countries act in ac cord with the principles of international accountability now that their oil pricing policies substantially effect the U.S. economy is only to in vite the outraged retort of the Venezuelan President: Where wer you when we were screaming about the price of your industria exports?

Understandably, others can now accuse us of saying what is mine what is yours is international.

Now, our present ambassador to the U.N. flails out against th tyranny of the majority; but have we, when we were in the majority refrained from imposing our will on strongly motivated minorities Our top foreign policy officials worry most today about the loss o U.S. credibility. How about the credibility of the U.S. commitments t international processes of dispute resolution and peaceful change? Th threats to U.S. security posed by a general deterioration of interna tional order, by a lack of international accountability in today's world these threats are more real and loom larger in the years ahead than an fantasy of falling dominos.

The threat to the U.N. is only a part of the general crisis in the in ternational system. The international populists are able to exploit this crisis because of the vacuum in progressive leadership by countries lik the United States.

A U.S. posture of progressive international accountability, has implications, of course, beyond the way we might conduct ourself in U.N

debates. There are numerous practical applications in a variety of fields. A few examples:

International accountability would mean that despite the sluggish pace of the negotiations on the law of the sea, the United States would refrain from unilateral extension of its coastal zone and from unilateral authorizations of its corporations to exploit the sea bed before the establishment of an international regime. The Congress, of course, must play a crucial role in resisting the pressures of special interests.

If we were serious about international accountability, if we were really as serious about world community, as Secretary Kissinger says we are, we would enter into serious negotiations to develop a comprehensive international system for protecting commodity producers and consumers from damaging fluctuations in prices. Now on the basis of Secretary Kissinger's Kansas City speech it appears that the U.S. Government is making some moves in the direction of accepting the legitimacy at least of a comprehensive negotiation on commodities.

PUBLIC OPINION RESTRAINTS ON U.S. POLICY

Senator CASE. In respect of Law of the Sea Conference, our Government is far ahead of American opinion. I want to say this again. Our Government, this administration, is far ahead of American opinion, which would extend American unilateral domination not only for fisheries but also for exploration of the seabed, far beyond that which our Government has been trying to work out.

So I want to indicate that I think you ought to be fair about this because you are not talking about a few selfish interests, you are talking about a generality of American opinion. I believe this very deeply because I have been subject to considerable pressure. I have tried to restrain American action in exploiting these things until we could see if we could get an international agreement.

Mr. BROWN. I would like to discuss this with you further during the discussion period.

Senator CASE. The only reason I interrupted, I have to leave at 11 o'clock to go to a conference and I did want to make that point here.

Mr. BROWN. May I, however, just pose a rhetorical question to you, which maybe we can pick up in the discussion, and that is how do we know what American opinion really is?

Senator CASE. You ask a politician if you want to know what American opinion is.

Mr. BROWN. I understand. But it is an articulate organized opinion. Organized and articulate opinion is one kind of opinion. Opinion that is created by any consistent, new vision is another kind of opinion, and what I am suggesting here

Senator CASE. I might say that is inchoate opinion.

Mr. BROWN. Yes, but who makes choate? The pressure groups, the special interests, those who represent the public?

Senator CASE. I do not disagree with you. We ought to be striving to be better. But this is not opinion now.

Mr. BROWN. Granted. What we are trying to do partially today is create an understanding of why a different approach toward the