There are more blank store fronts on my little town of Lebanon, Ky., that I have seen since the thirties, because the little farmers are leaving the little farms and are going to Louisville and to General Electric and other places to seek employment because they can't make it on the farm. I don't condemn them for doing it, but I do say we have got to do something to preserve and protect our program.

My desire is to let the little fellow make a living; I don't want to destroy for the sake of 1 or 2 or even 5 or 10 percent the living of the vast majority of my people, because as Mr. Spence said it is the lifeblood of my people.

This tobacco

It is the cash crop. It is the lifeblood of my people. program is that. I for one, if I never come back to this place-and believe you me I mean that we have got to stick together and preserve and protect this program at all costs.

Thank you very much. I feel very deeply about this program. Mr. WATTS. I would like to associate myself with Mr. Jennings in his remarks a few minutes ago about a program that would produce results. I agree with Mr. Williams, it has not become a problem yet, but the same thing that caused the farmer to go into the sucker business is going to cause him to grab on to anything that will produce some money.

I agree thoroughly with Mr. Jennings that we should give thought to those things and watch them as they come along. If we do that it is much easier to stop a practice that has not gained too firm a foothold than to stop one that is very well entrenched.

That is the reason that so many of us moved so quickly on the sucker bill. We realized that as yet it has not become a catastrophe or a threat that is insurmountable, but we are fearful of what the ultimate consequences will be if we do not stop it now. And I am sure that is what Mr. Jennings was talking about when he referred to the hope that you would look into the situation, to see that it did not develop before we had a chance to do something about it, if we could do anything about it.

I agree with Mr. Chelf, too, nobody wants the farmer not to have the opportunity to make a dollar, but the same rules should fit all parties.

Mr. ABBITT. I was interested in what you said some time ago about the meeting in Lexington. You say all of the States were there. I may have misunderstood. Did you mean all of the burley States were there?

Mr. WILLIAMS. All burley States were there.

Mr. ABBITT. Have you had any information from the flue growers or from any other types of tobacco how they feel about this measure? Mr. WILLIAMS. It never has been a serious problem. If you interpret it, their interest is in the long-range program. I think it is one of those things that most of you need in the program everywhere, and I think the people down there will find pretty much the same interest.

Mr. ABBITT. I wonder if you had any expression from the other types of tobacco?

Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir; I have not either way.
Mr. MATTHEWS. May I ask just one question?
Mr. ABBITT. Yes, sir.

Mr. MATTHEWS. You were able to come up with, of course, a very broad estimate. I think you said some 8 million to 15 million pounds of burley that might be affected. Do you have any idea as to whether or not there would be 7 million pounds of flue-cured tobacco affected now, or would you hazard a guess as to whether there is hardly any of that particular type where they harvest 2 crops?

Mr. WILLIAMS. I would say in flue-cured it has been isolated up to this point. There may be some isolated cases where they have gone a little into it. I can visualize if it becomes a 20 million crop in burley that it won't take long. It will spread.

Mr. ABBITT. Your idea now is there is no problem at all, not being done in any consequence whatever in the flue-cured tobacco? Mr. WILLIAMS. No; there would be some cases, of course.

Mr. ABBITT. One farm in a hundred or 1 in 200?

Mr. WILLIAMS. One out of 10,000.

Mr. ABBITT. Is there anything else you would like to say about this particular legislation?

Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir; that is all.

Mr. ABBITT. Any of your people who are here with you, would they like to say anything?

So far we have had 1 witness and the other 10 of us have testified along with him.

Mr. WATTS. We anticipate the Department can give us a formal report.

Mr. WILLIAMS. We will send up the report.

Mr. ELLIS. If the committee will make a formal request, then we will have something to go on.

Mr. CHELF. Get going.

Mr. ABBITT. I do not make those requests.

Mrs. Downey will attend to that for us.

On behalf of the subcommittee, we will request you to get us a report as soon as you possibly can. Mrs. Downey will attend to the request from the chairman of the full committee, who has always cooperated with us. The reason I was asking about the flue-cured, I know our chairman is extremely interested in all tobacco, particularly flue-cured, and I was trying to get that information on that situation so he would understand the situation.

If you will get that for us as soon as possible we will appreciate it. I am sure the chairman of the full committee will get a letter over there, too.

Mr. WILLIAMS. I might say this, I know you are interested in this: We have up through this week sold about two-thirds of the discount variety that we set up. We have got about 1,000,000 pounds left and, if we can sell the other third for what we have sold the two-thirds, we are going to be able to pay those individual growers down in your district there about 8 or 15 cents a pound dividends.

Mr. MATTHEWs. I want to express again my appreciation for what you have been doing, Mr. Williams, to help those men. And since you brought that up, I was going to ask you in an aside, but as I understand it you have actually begun selling that tobacco and before long you will be able to get rid of all of it?

Mr. WILLIAMS. We sold two-thirds. We tried to sell immediately after the closing of the market, but we did not consider that the prices that we had were sufficient. We refused. We have priced it at a

price that we know is right to the Government and the farmers down there, and we are hoping it will move out so we can send your farmers these checks as soon as possible.

Mr. MATTHEWS. In that connection, too, as to the tobacco plants, you do not have any information as to whether or not they have been able to get the plants they need at this time or whether there might be some problem attending that?

Mr. WILLIAMS. I don't think you will have that problem this year. Mr. ABBITT. I might say that I am now informed that the chairman of the full committee, Mr. Cooley, sent a request to the Department yesterday. I know that it is a large organization you have over there, and I thought perhaps you might be able to track it down and get the answer right quick.

Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes.

Mr. ABBITT. Unless there are some other witnesses, we will adjourn. (The following statement was submitted to the subcommittee:)

STATEMENT OF HON. CARL D. PERKINS, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE SEVENTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT OF THE STATE OF KENTUCKY Mr. Chairman and members of the subcommittee, I appear here today in support of H. R. 11061, a bill to amend the Agricultural Adjustment Act relating to tobacco acreage allotments.

This bill makes it unlawful for any grower of tobacco to harvest for marketing from the same acreage of a farm more than one crop of tobacco. The practice, as I understand, is not too prevalent at the present time but will interfere with the present tobacco program unless legislation is enacted by the Congress. I do not know of any individuals in the particular area that I am privileged to represent growing more than one crop on their tobacco allotments.

I do feel that we can all agree that such a practice would interfere with the present tobacco allotments by bringing about increased production which may in the long run affect all tobacco bases. I feel that it is equity for everybody concerned to only harvest one crop from a tobacco allotment.

(Whereupon, at 11:15 a. m., the hearing in the above-entitled matter was adjourned.)

Washington became certified on June 1, 1956, and since that time special attention has been directed toward reducing the number of quarantined herds in the state by prompt retests. There are less than 150 such herds listed at present. Washington is concentrating activities toward complete eradication of brucellosis.

A State regulation requiring the identification of animals at all sales yards to assist in tracing infection back to herds of origin was inaugurated during the year. Slaughterhouse blood samples of all breeding animals three years of age or older are collected at State and Federal inspected establishments. This has proved to be a very effective tool in locating infected herds and screening non-infected herds.

Very few swine are raised in the State and there has been no interest in a swine brucellosis program.

The main retarding influence in the West Virginia brucellosis eradication campaign during the past year was an acute shortage of operating personnel. This has been corrected to some extent through the employment of qualified technicians and the detail of Animal Disease Eradication Division personnel from other States to assist in difficult areas of West Virginia.

Although the State brucellosis committee supports the program, it has not been as active as possible during the past year.

The previous goal of September, 1958 set for State-wide certification has been changed to September, 1959.

It is expected that 13 counties can be certified during calendar year 1958. In addition, 16 others should be under a complete area program. If work progresses as anticipated there will be a total of 38 counties certified as of December 31, 1958.

Provisions for the certification of brucellosis-free swine herds are available in West Virginia. With a small, unorganized swine industry in the State there has been very little interest in such a program and no herds are currently certified.