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Mr. MCMILLAN. Has your organization seen copies of these two bills here?
Mr. DUNN. No. They do not have that information. They have it now, but they did not have it at that time. But they were informed that there was something of this kind up. They didn't know all the particulars of it.
Mr. MCMILLAN. Suppose you take these two bills back with you and let them go over them and send in another statement.
Mr. DUNN. We will be happy to do that at the next director's meeting.
Mr. MCMILLAN. Mr. R. H. Knowles.
STATEMENT OF H. H. KNOWLES, HEADLAND, ALA.
Mr. KNOWLES. I am H. H. Knowles, of Alabama, president of the Alabama Peanut Producers Association, president of GSPA.
I did not see a copy of this bill, but just a few minutes ago Mr. Sugg gave me a copy of the bill. I do not have a copy of the bill for the Southwest. Consequently I am not in a position to discuss it at all. We would be happy to get a copy of the Southwest bill and go back and go over it with our directors and register some statement later on. Until today the producers of Alabama are opposed to any legislation at this time.
Thank you, sir.
Mr. MCMILLAN. The committee will furnish you with copies of these bills, and if you would like to send us a statement for the record, we will be glad to incorporate it in the record.
Does anyone else here care to make a statement?
Mr. RAWLINGS. Mr. Chairman, could I add just a remark or two in view of some of the testimony?
I am William D. Rawlings. I am not going to take the time of the committee in too much detail here, but in view of some of the statements made this afternoon, I feel I should clarify the record a little bit.
First, with reference to the numerous meetings that have been held, I would like to have permission of the Chair to file for the record complete minutes of a number of meetings which have been held on this legislation which I think will be clarifying in view of a lot of the misinterpretations that apparently have been made.
Mr. MCMILLAN. Without objection, that will be done. (The material referred to is as follows:)
MINUTES OF THE PEANUT PRODUCERS MEETING RELATIVE TO DRAFTING PROPOSED PEANUT LEGISLATION, HENRY GRADY HOTEL, ATLANTA, GA., NOVEMBER 18-19, 1957
Those in attendance assembled in room 306 at 9 a. m., November 18, 1957, and H. L. Wingate was elected to act as chairman of the meeting. Joe S. Sugg was elected to act as secretary. A pad was passed for the purpose of determining those present. They were as follows:
R. L. Griffin, Alabama Farm Bureau, Post Office Box 1631, Montgomery, Ala. H. H. Knowles, president, Alabama Peanut Producers Association, Headland, Ala.
R. L. Donaldson, Alabama Peanut Producers Association.
Grady W. Dunn, Alabama Peanut Producers Association, Samson, Ala.
H. B. Wilson, Georgia Farm Bureau, Peanut Committee Chairman, Abbeyville, Ga.
Bobby J. Locke, Georgia Farm Bureau, Dawson, Ga.
W. E. McDowell, Georgia Farm Bureau, Blakely, Ga.
Charles Shirley, Georgia Farm Bureau, Blakely, Ga.
D. H. Harden, manager, Georgia Farm Bureau, Camilla, Ga.
J. D. Gardner, Georgia Farm Bureau, Camilla, Ga.
R. L. Mauldin, Georgia Farm Bureau, Slyvester, Ga.
B. B. Saunders, Georgia Farm Bureau, O'Brien, Fla.
W. V. Rawlings, Association of Virginia Peanut & Hog Growers, Capron, Va.
H. H. Hudson, Southwestern Peanut Growers Association, Box 489, Holdenville,
Ross Wilson, Southwestern Peanut Growers Association, Gorman, Tex.
Marcus B. Braswell, president, North Carolina Peanut Growers Association, Whitakers, N. C.
Joe S. Sugg, North Carolina Peanut Growers Association, Rocky Mount, N. C. R. Hunter Pope, North Carolina Peanut Growers Association, Enfield, N. C. George P. Kittrell, North Carolina Peanut Growers Association, Corapeake, N. C.
W. B. Anderson, Greenwood, Fla.
J. E. Thigpen, USDA, Washington, D. C.
Following the listings of those in attendance, Chairman Wingate called on W. V. Rawlings, executive secretary of the Association of Virginia Peanut and Hog Growers of Virginia to relate the background leading up to this meeting. Mr. Rawlings gave a general outline, setting forth the developments which led up to this meeting, and in so doing pointed out the activities which had been carried out by Joe S. Sugg, executive secretary of the North Carolina Peanut Growers Association, and himself, working with the full cooperation of personnel in the Oils and Peanut Division of the United States Department of Agriculture and attorneys in the United States Department of Agriculture. He specifically pointed out that there was no intention on the part of the VirginiaCarolina area representatives to draft proposed legislation for any other area, but that this activity had been done in the interest of laying down some basic principles as a framework on which this group in the meeting here today could work toward arriving at legislation suitable to the three peanut-producing areas of the United States. He further pointed out that in order to have something with which to work that these principles had been drafted in bill form, along with laymen's explanations of each section, and statistical analysis that this material had been sent to all the people who had been designated as representatives to this meeting in each producing area prior to this meeting, in order that they might become familiar with the material. Mr. Rawlings stated further that he had additional copies for distribution to those present who had not previously received copies.
Mr. Wingate then called on Joe S. Sugg for any comments relative to the background for this meeting, and Mr. Sugg emphasized the necessity for the producers of peanuts in the United States designing and drafting a program of their own liking without outside influence. The need for a new program which would be equally beneficial to the growers and more acceptable to the public has been greatly demonstrated in the past by the continuous attack on the peanut program in the Congress. He further stated that it was the feeling of the designers of the guide material to be used in the meeting today that basically this draft would go a long way toward meeting these requirements. Mr. Sugg further pointed out the existence of and the activities of the Conference of Commodity Organizations which would lend strength to the peanut grower organizations in trying to get peanut legislation enacted through the Congress.
Mr. Ross Wilson, representing the Southwestern Peanut Growers Association, was called on and he concurred generally with the expressions of Mr. Rawlings and Mr. Sugg.
Following these general statements, Chairman Wingate suggested that we first have Mr. Rawlings go over in a general way enclosure No. 2 of the material, which is the laymen's description of the draft of the bill and that following this
general approach the draft of the bill be discussed section by section and paragraph by paragraph, in detail using both enclosure No. 1 and enclosure No. 2 to help clarify the various points developed in the discussions. This plan was followed in the remainder of the meeting, which continued through Monday and adjourned at 11:30 a. m., Tuesday, November 19, 1957.
During the discussions of the bill, certain changes were made, and certain instructions were issued, which would create changes in the redraft of the bill. The group voted that Mr. Rawlings and Mr. Sugg be appointed to work out a redraft of the bill in conformance with the wishes as expressed by the group in this meeting, and working with Mr. Thigpen, Mr. Mace, and the lawyers of the Department of Agriculture. The group in appointing Sugg and Rawlings to this job recognized the closeness and their geographical location, making it more simple for them to work with Washington representatives.
The following actions with respect to the draft were taken :
First page, section 301, subsection (b), Agriculture Adjustment Act 1938, approved with the exception that the words "or held for" be added following the words "acquired by" on line 5 of paragraph b of the draft.
Also add to this paragraph the following wording: “In addition, any peanuts that are held by the owner under a loan arrangement with the Commodity Credit Corporation will be excluded. Furthermore, inedible shelled oil stock will be excluded from the carryover."
Section 2 was approved as drafted with the exception: on page 2, line 4, the figure "90" would be changed to "95" and that the figures in line 5 on page 2 be changed to read "1,529,500" and that the section be worded so that such acreage allotments if granted under the section 358-C2 on page 2 not count in the history used in determining future peanut allotments.
Section 395, beginning on page 3, was reviewed with the following change: On page 4, delete the words in line 8 "and pursuant to section 359F of this". On page 5, under paragraph (b), line 7, insert the word "average" between the words of “of” and “price” and delete on the same line following the word "support" the words "by types".
In this same section reword so that the payment made into the fund will be 14 percent of the per ton level of the national average support for eligible peanuts and that the funds developed by this 14 percent payment would be earmarked and designated for publicity, sales promotion, and other programs. That paragraph (d) on page 5, line 2, delete the words "not less than". Lines 4 and 5, amend to show 3 sheller representatives 1 from each area and to show 3 manufacturing representatives.
On page 6, under paragraph (d), the portion in quotes starting at "provided" be rewritten so as to show that 14 percent of the payment to the fund as previously set forth in section (b) on page 5.
Paragraphs (e), (f), and (g) were approved as written.
That the words on page 8, under (h), "and pursuant to section 359F of this Act" be deleted and the proviso in section 8, beginning with the word “provided" on the fourth line from the bottom of the page and continuing on page 9 to section 6, be omitted.
Sections 6, 7, 8 on page 9 were approved as written.
Those delegates present approved the entire draft as changed and amended, as indicated in the above notes, with the exception that the Alabama Farm Bureau asked for the privilege to consult their representatives upon their return home and indicate their action at the earliest possible date with respect to the seciton dealing with promotional funds, and the delegates from the Southwest also requested the privilege of further discussing with their representatives at home and indicating their position at the earliest possible opportunity on the portion of section 395 which deals with the payment into the fund for diversion of surplus peanuts during seasons when their crop is in short supply. It was further agreed that should legislation based on this bill be enacted in 1958 that it would not be made effective until the crop year 1959.
Upon the completion of the discussions on the bill, Chairman Wingate took the opportunity, along with other representatives present, to express his appreciation to those who were active in formulating plans and instigating this meeting. and a number of those present expressed their opinion that this meeting was the most harmonious meeting of peanut producers relative to legislative matters that they had ever experienced.
The group was assured by Acting Secretary Sugg that copies of the minutes and of the redraft of the bill based on the actions of this meeting would be forwarded to each of those present as soon as possible.
There being no further business,the meeting was adjourned.
JOE S. SUGG, Acting Secretary.
MINUTES OF PEANUT MEETING IN RADIUM SPRINGS, FRIDAY, DECEMBER 6, 1957
H. B. Wilson, chairman, GFBF Peanut Commodity Committee, called the meeting to order at 10 a. m. and H. H. Knowles of Alabama gave the invocation. Chairman Wilson asked J. H. Wyatt, secretary, GRBF Peanut Committee, to read the minutes of the peanut commodity meeting held November 11 in connection with the GFBF annual meeting and also the minutes of the Atlanta meeting where proposed legislation was discussed.
Mr. Wilson explained the purpose of this meeting was to further discuss this proposed legislation and that the results would be sent to W. V. Rawlings, executive secretary, Virginia Peanut and Hog Association, who had worked with USDA officials in drawing up this proposed legislation. It was announced that Mr. Rawlings would be attending a meeting in Kansas City of National Commodity Committeemen, Monday, December 9, and would need farmers' opinion on legislation at that time.
Mr. Wilson explained that John P. Duncan, Jr., president, Georgia Farm Bureau, had called this meeting of the GFBF Peanut Committee and that Alabama and Florida had been invited.
Everyone in attendance was asked to stand and give their name, position, and from which State. Each State was well represented and enclosed is a list of persons in attendance.
Chairman Wilson called on Steve Pace, general counsel for Southeastern Peanut Shellers Association, to lead a thorough discussion on the proposed legislation. It was suggested that Mr. Pace discuss each proposed section of the bill and then after completion of the discussion that each section would be voted on separately. A lengthy discussion followed.
Below is the action taken by producers:
Bob Griffin moved the adoption of the section dealing with increasing the carryover, in the definition of normal supply, be increased from 15 to 25 percent. Motion was duly seconded and carried unanimously.
Bob Griffin also moved that the section, lowering from 108 to 102 percent (the supply percentage in figuring support prices) be deleted. Motion was duly seconded and carried unanimously.
Aubrey Hudson of Florida moved that the section dealing with total supply of peanuts and in determining total supply that peanuts acquired by or held by CCC be excluded in figuring total supply. H. L. Wingate of Georgia seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
Bob Griffin of Alabama moved that the section dealing with the Secretary of Agriculture taking into consideration the carryover of peanuts in announcing national marketing quota, so as to provide for a normal supply of peanuts. be struck out for further study. Motion was seconded and unanimously carried.
H. L. Wingate moved that the section of the present law which prohibits the Secretary of Agriculture allotting less than 1,610,000 acres nationally be amended to provide that the national marketing quota for peanuts be not less than the smaller of 95 percent of the national acreage allotment for the preceding year or 1,529,500 acres. Motion was seconded by Mr. Cogburne of Florida and passed. C. W. White of Bainbridge requested that his vote be recorded as against this amendment.
C. W. White of Georgia moved that the section of the present law giving the Secretary authority to increase peanut acreage by types, be repealed. Motion seconded by Bob Griffin of Alabama and carried unanimously.
Grady Dunn of Alabama moved that the section dealing with setting up a promotional fund be amended by striking out wherever stated "10 percent for each succeeding year" and also the section "with respect to limitations upon the quantities of shelled peanuts, by types and grades below U. S. No. 1 grade, which may be marketed or otherwise disposed of for uses other than for feed or for crushing into oil or meal, or for export." Motion seconded by H. L. Wingate and carried unanimously.
H. L. Wingate moved that the section dealing with setting up of a fund of 5 percent above the announced support price of which one-fourth of the fund would go for promotion and the remainder of the fund to go for administration and any losses that may occur under the price-support program, be adopted. R. R. Donaldson of Alabama seconded motion and the motion carried.
C. G. Boyd of Florida moved that W. V. Rawlings be contacted and ask him to furnish persons in attendance at this meeting a copy of the final proposed peanut bill to be presented to the Congress in January. Motion seconded and carried. Meeting adjourned at 4: 30 p. m. Respectfully submitted.
Name, State and position :
W. L. Alford, Poulan, Ga., farmer.
J. H. WYATT,
Secretary, GF BF Peanut Committee.
G. L. Houston, Sylvester, Ga., Southeastern Peanut Association.
H. H. Conner, Jr., Eufaula, Ala., Southeastern Peanut Association.
S. R. Baxley, Tom Huston, Columbus, Ga., Southeastern Peanut Association. H. G. Richey, Southern Cotton Oil, Macon, Ga., Southeastern Peanut Association.
G. C. Davis, Arlington, Ga., Southeastern Peanut Association.
Rhett Bryson, Alabama, Southeastern Peanut Association.
H. M. Sessions, Enterprise, Ala., Southeastern Peanut Association.
D. H. Harden, Camilla, Ga., GFA.
W. A. Cogburn, Florida, farmer.
Aubrey J. Hudson, Jackson County, Fla., Florida FB.
W. W. Glenn, Box 530, Marianna, Fla., Florida FB.
J. C. Cromley, Statesboro, Ga., farmer.
L. L. Mauldin, Georgia, GFA.
C. G. Fuqua, Georgia, GFA.
H. H. Knowles, Headland, Ala., GFA.
C. G. Boyd, Newberry, Fla., Florida FB.
B. B. Saunders, Jr., O'Brien, Fla., GFA.
W. C. Riverbark, Columbia, Ala., farmer.
Frank M. Stewart, Box 1631, Montgomery, Ala., Alabama FB.
Arlie Shultz, Route 2, Ocilla, Ga., farmer.
J. D. Gardner, Camilla, Ga., GFA.
G. C. Kearse, Leesburg, Ga., farmer.
R. L. Heath, Leesburg, Ga., farmer.
R. L. Griffin, Box 1631, Montgomery, Ala., Alabama FB.
H. L. Wingate, Box 7, Pelham, Ga., farmer.
Troy Barton, Macon, Ga., GFBF.
A. T. Mace, USDA.
J. E. Thigpen, USDA.
R. C. Singletary, Jr., Blakely, Ga., farmer.
Julian Maddox, Luverne, Ala., Luverne Peanut Co.
Elmer Paulk, Ocilla, Ga., GFA.
Billy Ewing, Georgia, farmer.
W. L. Paullin, Pelham, Ga., Columbian Peanut Co.
Mrs. Virginia Culpepper, Americus, Ga., Southeastern Peanut Association.
Roy E. Parrish, Moultrie, Ga., Goldkist.
Edward Jordan, Tifton, Ga., Farmers Gin & Peanut Association.
Yank Lamb, Omega, Ga., Farmers Gin & Peanut Association.
C. W. White, Bainbridge, Ga., farmer.
Pierce Christie, Dawson, Ga., GFBF.