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From the books of the Indian Office, it appears that there were in the United States Treasury, on March 26, 1928, to the credit of the Choctaw Nation, funds to the aggregate amount of $530,930.48; and to the credit of the Chickasaw Nation, funds to the aggregate amount of $106,928.85.

Deducting therefrom the sums necessary for the tribal government and schools for the next fiscal year and to meet outstanding obligations, there are not sufficient available tribal funds to warrant any new per capita distribution therefrom at this time to the enrolled members of the Choctaw and Chickasaw Nations. The department does not feel that it would be justified in recommending the loan of $2,500,000 by the United States to the Choctaw and Chickasaw Nations for the purpose of a per capita distribution thereof to the members of said Indian nations. Therefore the enactment of H. J. Res. 255 is not recommended.

The Director of the Bureau of the Budget advises, by letter of May 7, 1928, that the proposed legislation is in conflict with the financial program of the President.

Very truly yours,

HUBERT WORK.

WILLIAM RODERICK DORSEY AND OTHERS

Mr. MARTIN of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to take from the Speaker's table the bill (H. R. 9112) for the relief of William Roderick Dorsey and other officers of the Foreign Service of the United States, who, while serving abroad, suffered by theft, robbery, fire, embezzlement, or bank failures losses of official funds, with a Senate amendment thereto, and agree to the Senate amendment.

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Massachusetts asks unanimous consent to take from the Speaker's table the bill, H. R. 9112, with a Senate amendment thereto, and agree to the Senate amendment. The Clerk will report the Senate amendment.

The Clerk read the Senate amendment.
The SPEAKER. Is there objection?

Mr. GARNER of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I do not know whether the gentleman keeps up with the proceedings in the House or not, but the Speaker the other day said that he did not like to recognize anyone to take up a House bill with Senate amendments thereto for the purpose of agreeing to the Senate amendments, unless the committee had ordered the chairman or the Member in charge of the matter to make such a request.

The SPEAKER. The Chair was so assured before recognizing the gentleman from Massachusetts.

Mr. GARNER of Texas. The gentleman did not make that statement, and I think it ought to be made at the time the request is made, because it would save time in each instance.

Mr. MARTIN of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, for the information of the gentleman from Texas I would say that I have been instructed to do this by the committee.

The SPEAKER. Is there objection?

There was no objection.

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OFFICE OF THE POSTMASTER GENERAL, Washington, D. C., May 9, 1928.

Chairman Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads,

House of Representatives. DEAR MR. GRIEST: In reply to a telephone inquiry from the rooms of the House Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads concerning House Resolution 179, I beg to state that there has been no action taken by direction of the Postmaster General or anyone else officially connected with the headquarters of the Post Office Department directing postmasters or employees of the service to furnish information to the United States Prohibition Service with reference to the habits or quali fications of prospective jurors. It has been customary for other departments of the Government from time to time to ask the Post Office Department to cooperate with them in the collection of certain statistical information, and wherever it has been possible for the Post Office Department to accord such cooperation without undue expense and without overtaxing its own employees, it has been given.

The Treasury Department has never to my knowledge called on us for service in connection with prohibition enforcement, and I do not see how it would be possible for us in any way to aid in a service of that character. The only case of which I have any knowledge of anyone connected with the Postal Service being asked to do anything in this respect arose at Pittsburgh, where Postmaster Gosser received a letter over the signature of John D. Pennington, Federal prohibition administrator for that district, inclosing a questionnaire concerning the habits, associations, and characteristics of certain prospective jurors. I do not know that Postmaster Gosser did anything more in this case than to send the questionnaire to this department for instructions. After reading the list of questions included, it is perfectly apparent that they could not by any possibility be answered without long investigation, and it would appear equally obvious that the matter is one in which this department ought not be expected to take a part. Postmaster Gosser has been so informed.

As above stated, this is the only case of which I know in which a request of this character has been preferred. If the committee so desires, a representative of the department will attend the hearing on this resolution, but this letter really supplies all the information the department has or could impart. Very truly yours,

HARRY S. NEW, Postmaster General. WITHDRAWING CERTAIN MONTANA LAND FROM ENTRY Mr. LEAVITT. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Public Lands, I ask unanimous consent to take from the Speaker's table the bill H. R. 8110, withdrawing from entry the northwest quarter section 12, township 30 north, range 19 east, Montana meridian, with a Senate amendment thereto, and agree to the Senate amendment.

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Montana, by direction of the Committee on Public Lands, asks unanimous consent to take from the Speaker's table the bill H. R. 8110, with a Senate amendment thereto, and agree to the Senate amendment. Is there objection?

There was no objection.

The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the Senate amendment.

The Clerk read the Senate amendment.
The Senate amendment was agreed to.

BRIDGE ACROSS THE DETROIT RIVER

Mr. DENISON. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce, I call up from the Speaker's table the bill S. 4405 and ask for its immediate consideration, a similar bill being on the calendar.

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illinois calls up from the Speaker's table the bill S. 4405, a similar House bill being on the calendar.

Mr. DENISON. The bill is in the usual form, Mr. Speaker.
The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the bill by title.
The Clerk read as follows:

A bill (S. 4405) authorizing the Detroit River Canadian Bridge Co., its successors and assigns, to construct, maintain, and operate a bridge across the Detroit River at or near Stony Island, Wayne County, State of Michigan.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. Reserving the right to object, Mr. Speaker, is the recapture clause in this bill? Is there no recap

ture clause in it?

Mr. DENISON. No.
The SPEAKER.

The gentleman has the right to call it up.

Mr. DENISON. I will state to the gentleman from New York | and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu that this is identical with the Detroit River bill passed last of the sum proposed insert "$85,400"; and the Senate agree year. to the same.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. Yes; a novel and very constructive feature in international bridges was brought about in a bill introduced by the gentleman from Michigan [Mr. CRAMTON], which will be a model for future bridge bills, so far as I am concerned, at the next session of Congress.

Mr. DENISON. That was done by agreement between the parties and is a very unusual thing.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. That was due to the foresight and skill of the gentleman from Michigan.

Mr. DENISON. Our committee approved of it.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. I am with the committee for that.

The SPEAKER. The question is on the third reading of the Senate bill.

The Senate bill was ordered to be read a third time, was read the third time, and passed.

A motion to reconsider the vote whereby the Senate bill was passed was laid on the table.

The bill H. R. 13065 was laid on the table.

HOSPITAL RELIEF FOR UNITED STATES COAST GUARD

Mr. HOCH. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce, I ask unanimous consent to call up from the Speaker's table the bill H. R. 11022, with a Senate amendment, and move to agree to the Senate amendment. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Kansas asks unanimous consent to take from the Speaker's table the bill H. R. 11022, with a Senate amendment, and agree to the Senate amendment. The Clerk will report the bill by title.

The Clerk read as follows:

A bill (H. R. 11022) to extend medical and hospital relief to retired officers and retired enlisted men of the United States Coast Guard.

The SPEAKER. Is there objection?

There was no objection.

The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the Senate amendment.

The Senate amendment was read.

Amendment numbered 17: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 17, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$4,075,820"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 19: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 19, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert $101,400"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 20: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 20, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$110,400"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 21: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 21, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$68,518"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 24: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 24, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert $19,421,700"; and the Senate agree to the same.

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Amendment numbered 25: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 25, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$1,596,700"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 27: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 27, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$17,228,000"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 28: That the House recede from its

The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the Senate disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 28, amendment. The Senate amendment was agreed to.

NAVAL APPROPRIATION BILL

Mr. FRENCH. Mr. Speaker, I call up the conference report on the House bill 12286, making appropriations for the Navy Department for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1929.

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Idaho calls up the conference report on the bill H. R. 12286. The Clerk will report it. The conference report was read.

The conference report and statement are as follows:

CONFERENCE REPORT

The committee of conference on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on the amendments of the Senate to the bill (H. R. 12286) making appropriations for the Navy Department and the naval service for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1929, and for other purposes, having met, after full and free conference have agreed to recommend and do recommend to their respective Houses as follows:

That the Senate recede from its amendments numbered 5, 6, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 22, 23, 32, 37, 38, 39, 41, and 48.

That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendments of the Senate numbered 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 26, 43, 44, 47, 51, and 56, and agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 7: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 7, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert “$260,000"; and the Senate agree to the

same.

Amendment numbered 9: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 9, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$260,000"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 10: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 10, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$260,000"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 11: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 11, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert “$200,400”; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 12: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 12,

and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$1,828,000"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 29: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 29, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$11,952,050"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 30: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 30, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$960,800"; and the Senate agree

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Amendment numbered 31: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 31, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$66,596,350"; and the Senate agree to the

same.

Amendment numbered 33: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 33, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$127,651,215"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 34: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 34, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$18,845,502"; and the Senate agree

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Amendment numbered 35: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 35, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$4,400,240"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 36: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 36. and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$150.896.957"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 40: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 40, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$2,032,250"; and the Senate agree

to the same.

Amendment numbered 42: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 42, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu

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Amendment numbered 54: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 54, and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the matter inserted by said amendment insert the following: "$65,000; in all, $490,532"; and the Senate agree to the same.

Amendment numbered 55: That the House recede from its

disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 55,

and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed insert "$15,665,816"; and the Senate agree to the same.

The committee of conference have not agreed on amendments numbered 45, 46, 50, and 52.

BURTON L. FRENCH,

GUY U. HARDY,
JOHN TABER,

W. A. AYRES,

W. B. OLIVER,

Managers on the part of the House.
FREDERICK HALE,
L. C. PHIPPS,
CLAUDE A. SWANSON,
Managers on the part of the Senate.

STATEMENT

ine managers on the part of the House at the conference on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on the bill (H. R. 12286) making appropriations for the Navy Department and the naval service for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1929, and for other purposes, submit the fellowing statement in explanation of the effect of the action agreed upon and embodied in the accompanying conference report, as to each such amendments, namely:

On Nos. 1, 2, 3, and 4, relating to the appropriation, "Pay, miscellaneous ": Provides for two delegates to attend the International Research Council and one delegate to attend the International Hydrographic Conference, as proposed by the Senate, instead of one and two delegates, respectively, as proposed by the House.

On Nos. 5 and 6, relating to the appropriation, "Pay, miscellaneous": Appropriates $495,000 for pay of classified employees, as proposed by the House, instead of $516,523.20, as proposed by the Senate.

On Nos. 7, 8, 9, and 10, relating to the West Indian Islands: Makes a direct appropriation of $260.000, instead of $240,000, as proposed by the House, and $280,000, as proposed by the Senate, and a conditional appropriation of $20,000, as proposed by the Senate, instead of $35,500, as proposed by the House.

On Nos. 11 and 12, relating to the Naval Research Laboratory: Appropriates $85,400 for pay of classified employees, instead of $85,000, as proposed by the House, and $86,893.40, as proposed by the Senate.

On Nos. 13 and 14, relating to recreation for enlisted men: Appropriates $35,000 for pay of classified employees, as proposed by the House, instead of $36,500, as proposed by the Senate.

On No. 15, relating to the appropriation "Instruments and supplies, Bureau of Navigation": Appropriates $580,000, as proposed by the House, instead of $580,300, as proposed by the Senate.

On No. 16: Appropriates $80,000 for ocean and lake surveys, as proposed by the House, instead of $80,860, as proposed by the Senate.

On Nos. 17 and 18, relating to the Naval Reserve: Appropriates $4,075,820, instead of $4,020.000, as proposed by the House, and $4,085,820, as proposed by the Senate, and fixes the amount for pay of classified employees at $73.531, as proposed by the House, instead of $76,431, as proposed by the Senate. On Nos. 19, 20, and 21, relating to the Naval War College: Appropriates $68,518 for pay of classified employees, instead of $68,118, as proposed by the House, and $70,893, as proposed by the Senate.

On Nos. 22 and 23, relating to the Naval Home, Philadelphia, Pa.: Appropriates $73,425 for pay of employees, as proposed by the House, instead of $75,165, as proposed by the Senate.

On Nos. 24 and 25: Appropriates $1,596,700 for pay of classified employees, field service, Bureau of Engineering, instead of $1,575,000, as proposed by the House, and $1,623,450, as proposed by the Senate.

On Nos. 26, 27, and 28, relating to the Bureau of Construction and Repair: Makes specific provision for carrying on experimental and research work, as proposed by the Senate, and appropriates $1,828,000 for pay of classified employees in the field, instead of $1,800,000 as proposed by the House, and $1,902,000, as proposed by the Senate.

On Nos. 29 and 30: Appropriates $960,800 for pay of classified employees in the field under the Bureau of Ordnance, instead of $950,000, as proposed by the House, and $974,000, as proposed by the Senate.

On Nos. 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, and 36, relating to pay, transpor896,957, instead of $149,213,752, as proposed by the House, and tation, and subsistence of naval personnel: Appropriates $150,$151,948,777, as proposed by the Senate, being intended to provide for an average enlisted strength during the fiscal year 1929 of 84,000 men, instead of 83,250 men, as proposed by the House, and 86,000, as proposed by the Senate, and also to meet the anticipated added expense incident to a larger number of reenlistments than contemplated by the figures of both the House and Senate.

On Nos. 37 and 38: Appropriates $9,647,000 for "maintenance, Bureau of Supplies and Accounts," as proposed by the House, instead of $9,777,000, as proposed by the Senate, and fixes the sum available for pay of classified employees at $2,975,000, as proposed by the House, instead of $3,067,000, as proposed by the Senate.

On No. 39: Restores the provision proposed by the House with respect to the manufacture of clothing in piecework shops. On No. 40: Appropriates $2,032,250 for Medical Department on account of the proposal to raise the average enlisted strength to 84,000 men, instead of $2,030,000, as proposed by the House, and $2,054,250, as proposed by the Senate.

On No. 41: Appropriates $60,000 for “Care of the dead," as proposed by the House in agreement with the Budget estimate, instead of $75,000, as proposed by the Senate.

On Nos. 42, 43, and 44, relating to the appropriation "Maintenance, Bureau of Yards and Docks": Fixes the sum available for pay of classified employees at $1,008,800, instead of $1,000,000, as proposed by the House, and $1,035,000, as proposed by the Senate, and clarifies the text with respect to acquisition of motor vehicles.

On No. 47: Makes $165,000 of the appropriation made in the first deficiency act, fiscal year 1927, on account of hurricane damage, Naval Air Station, Pensacola, Fla., available for the erection of a concrete bridge at such station, as proposed by the Senate.

On Nos. 48, 49, and 51, relating to aviation, Navy: Fixes the sum to be applied to maintenance, repair, and operation at $9,675,000, as proposed by the House, instead of $9,740,000, as proposed by the Senate; fixes the amount for pay of classified employees at $731,000, instead of $725,000, as proposed by the House, and $782,200, as proposed by the Senate, and amends, as proposed by the Senate, the provision with respect to the construction of rigid airships so as to remove any question that one of such airships need to be commenced prior to July 1, 1928.

On Nos. 53, 54, and 55, relating to the Marine Corps Reserve: Appropriates for other than transferred and assigned men $182,000, instead of $150,000, as proposed by the House, and $243,684, as proposed by the Senate, and appropriates for assigned men $65,000, as proposed by the House, instead of $87,500, as proposed by the Senate.

On No. 56: Appropriates $250,000 for printing and binding, as proposed by the Senate, instead of $510,000, as proposed by the House.

The committee of conference have not agreed to the following amendments:

On No. 45: Appropriating $157.000 for replacing boiler house, and so forth, Engineering Experiment Station, Annapolis, Md. On No. 46: Appropriating $65,000 for replacement of boiler plant, Naval Fuel Depot, Melville, R. I.

On Nos. 50 and 52: Appropriating $635,000 for airplanes for use of Naval Reserve.

BURTON L. FRENCH, GUY U. HARDY, JOHN TABER

W. A. AYRES,

W. B. OLIVER,

Managers on the part of the House.

Mr. FRENCH. Mr. Speaker, I think a short statement will be sufficient to indicate to the House the result of the work of the conferees on the disagreeing votes between the Senate and the House of Representatives on the naval appropriation bill.

The bill as it passed the House carried $359,418,237. The Senate added $4,318,780.69. The report of the conference committee just read indicates that the amount added by the Senate embraces quite a number of amendments. Many of these amendments have to do with the classified personnel and are scattered throughout the bill.

Mr. FRENCH. Two million seven hundred and twenty-seven thousand five hundred and seventy-five dollars.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. So the House bill was under the Budget estimates while the completed bill, if it is agreed to now, will be over the Budget estimates?

Mr. FRENCH. Yes. The House bill was more than $1,000,000 under the Budget estimates and nearly $2,000,000 under the estimate which includes the supplemental estimate that came in a few days ago.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. The House bill was a well-balanced bill?
Mr. FRENCH. We thought so; but when two are negotiating

The following objects, however, include the items added by it takes two to come to an agreement. the Senate:

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the House.

After the bill had passed the Senate the Navy Department advised that more recent studies disclosed that reenlistments likely would exceed previous estimates and that longevity pay would be larger than we had been advised; and that if such proved to be the case, the Senate figures would provide for but 85,000 men and that the House figures would need to be increased by $821,685 to provide for 83,250 men, exclusive of certain overestimates totaling $728,042, which were revealed by the latest studies.

As a result of our conference we fixed the personnel at 84,000 instead of 83,250, as carried in the House bill, and 86,000 as provided by the Senate. To take care of longevity pay based upon the latest studies and to take care of 750 additional enlisted men, the bill carries for pay of naval personnel $1,683,205 more than when passed by the House and $1,051,820 less than as passed by the Senate. Since the conference was concluded a supplemental estimate of $785,437 has been received from the Budget Bureau to cover the latest figures submitted by the Navy Department touching longevity pay as applied to the enlisted personnel, which lessens just that much the disparity between the bill as agreed to in conference and the Budget estimates.

For pay of civil employees in the field, the figure agreed upon is $76,100 instead of $406,501.69, as proposed by the Senate, the additional sum being intended for additional pay for draftsmen only, and will be subject, of course, in its application to the provisions of the Welch bill, if that bill shall become law.

As finally approved by the conferees the bill carries, including the items brought back for disposition by the House, $362,145,812. This sum is $2,727,575 more than the House bill and $1,591,205.69 less than the bill carried as it passed the Senate.

If the House concurs in the action I shall propose on the amendments brought back, the bill will exceed the Budget estimates, including the supplemental estimates for pay to which I have referred, by $880,905.

Mr. MCCLINTIC. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. FRENCH. Yes.

Mr. McCLINTIC. Did the Senate reduce any of the items that were agreed upon in the House?

Mr. FRENCH. No items were reduced by the Senate. Mr. McCLINTIC. Then the bill carries the two hundred and odd thousand dollars that was added by the House for a boathouse at Annapolis?

Mr. FRENCH. Yes.

Mr. McCLINTIC. How many more men does this bill take care of in the way of enlisted personnel?

Mr. FRENCH. Seven hundred and fifty more men, instead of 2,750 men as provided by the Senate.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. FRENCH. Yes.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. I understood the gentleman to say that the bill, if we agree to the Senate amendments, will be $800,000 above the Budget estimates?

Mr. FRENCH. Yes; $880,905.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. How much above the bill as it left the House?

Mr. LAGUARDIA. Apparently.

Mr. BLACK of New York. Will the gentleman yield me some time?

Mr. FRENCH. How much time does the gentleman want? Mr. BLACK of New York. About three minutes.

Mr. FRENCH. I will be glad to yield the gentleman three minutes.

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Mr. BLACK of New York. Mr. Speaker and gentlemen of the House, at the outset of this session we were led to believe that the administration had in mind making some substantial increase in the Navy. The Navy Department reported through the President to the House that we required a program of 71 new ships. The Naval Affairs Committee through its chairman originally presented a bill for the 71 new ships. Under spur of the pacifists the Naval Affairs Committee forgot President, forgot the administration, forgot the country, away from the 71-ship bill, and came in with the 15-cruiser bill. The 15-cruiser bill is now languishing some place in the Capitol. Nobody really expects that we will have the 15 new cruisers. The Naval Affairs Committee reported as a reason for not authorizing new submarines and destroyer leaders that already we had authority under the 1916 act to build new submarines and to build destroyer leaders. There are yet to be built under the 1916 authorization three submarines, and I had hoped that the other body would respond to the desires of the country that we increase our Navy, particularly in respect of submarines. We now have before us the conference report on the naval appropriation bill, which indicates that the other body has been as lax as we were in the building of submarines.

I am making this little talk to urge the Committee on Appropriations when they bring in the deficiency bill to bring in an appropriation which will enable us to start the construction of three submarines. If they do not do that, on this naval question the Republican Party and this administration is exactly 100 per cent bunk from the beginning of the session to the end of the session. [Applause.]

Mr. FRENCH. Mr. Speaker, I yield two minutes to the gen. tleman from Oklahoma [Mr. MCCLINTIC].

Mr. McCLINTIC. Mr. Speaker, I have before me an article and I ask permission to extend my remarks by inserting it in the RECORD at this point.

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"We should bring an end," he continued, "to the preposterous agita. tion that has existed, both here and in Great Britain, for increased naval armaments, by leading the way in a revision of the laws of neu trality as these affect sea-borne commerce. The only possible excuse left for a huge naval expenditure is that of protecting a nation's merce in time of war. It is no longer a difficult matter to protect this commerce by law. All the militaristic naval gentlemen and all the representatives of the big armament makers are, of course, violently

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opposed to this humane proposal, but despite their outcries public opinion is about ready to demand it.

"A syndicated article has been going about through the press indicating that our Government shall enter into no agreements of any kind, but shall retain complete freedom of action and command the world's respect with flying machines, submarines, fast cruisers, and a mercantile fleet bigger and better than any other.' This is the pestiferous barbarism of a bygone age and should have no place in the thinking or the conduct of the American people.

Mr. McCLINTIC. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, the article I have here relates to a statement made by Dr. Nicholas Murray Butler, president of Columbia University. I think it is apropos of the present situation with respect to world peace, and I am very glad to have it printed in the RECORD after the speech made by the gentleman from New York, as it presents to a certain extent the other side from his views on naval armament.

I have but little patience with that type of citizen who tries to carry water on both shoulders by advocating the cancellation of a debt owed by a foreign nation amounting to billions of dollars, and at the same time advocating a military policy that would bring about an expenditure of several hundred million dollars. In other words, such a policy penalizes the taxpayers both going and coming, and in addition would allow the foreign country benefited just this much more increased credit which could be utilized as an asset to start another war. If some candidate for the Presidency wants to strike a note in the coming campaign that will ring true to the taxpayers, let him follow the steps of President Andrew Jackson and adopt a slogan, "Make every foreign nation settle in some manner or issue no more calling cards."

It is to be regretted that we have a class of citizens whose chief aim in life seems to be the spreading of propaganda for the purpose of popularizing war and war activities. A few days ago, out by the Washington Monument, I saw a great crowd of Washington people witnessing the maneuvering of troops and the operating of machine-guns as an advertised attraction of one of the branches of our Government. Nearly every week some of the news reels show either tanks in action, Coast Guard guns, dirigible and aircraft maneuvers, military drills, destroyer squadrons, and steaming battleships, thus leaving the impression with the representatives of every foreign country and our citizens that our Nation is silently preparing for war.

How much better it would be if our leaders would exert the same kind of energy in preparing for peace! Statistics show that very few of those who handle the propaganda and the war preparations ever actually participate in a conflict, yet they have no humane reserve thoughts in the interest of the mangled corpses that eventually make the sacrifices. War is the most terrible monster that ever ran rampant over any land, and I want to say to you that in the next war, the new inventions relating to death-dealing devices will be so dreadful as to stagger the minds of humanity. There will be death rays which man will operate from high, protected zones which will cause the destruction of life at great distances; liquid fire will be poured out of the clouds by planes and dirigibles and in exploding shells; smoke bombs will completely cover up areas that are desired to be destroyed; noiseless motors will enable machinery to creep up unexpectedly, and bring about a terrific toll of life; poison gas will be unloaded on the windward side of cities, thereby striking terror to the hearts of inhabitants; lightningprojecting machines will flash death and destruction over great distances; radio generated and propelled bombs will be cast back and forth through the elements like sky-rockets, and fuelless ships will travel inestimable distances in the taking of human life.

The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the conference report.

The conference report was agreed to.

The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the first amendment in disagreement.

The Clerk read as follows:

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Amendment No. 45: On page 31, after line 13, insert Engineering experiment station, Annapolis, Md.: Replacement of boiler house, boiler and auxiliaries, $157,000.”

The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:

Mr. FRENCH moves to recede and concur in amendment No. 46, with an amendment: In lieu of the matter inserted by said amendment insert the following: "Naval fuel depot, Melville, R. I.: Toward replacement of boiler plant (limit of cost, $150,000), $65,000."

Mr. FRENCH. Mr. Speaker, I now yield to the gentleman from New York [Mr. O'CONNELL] for a question.

Mr. O'CONNELL. I want to ask the chairman of the committee if it is the understanding that the civilian personnel are expected to receive their increases under the Welch bill? This is what the gentleman has stated. I am very greatly interested in this matter. In the event that the Welch bill fails to pass, are they to be out of luck, or will they receive consideration?

Mr. FRENCH. I will say to the gentleman we carried rather substantial increases in the bill for the increase of civilian employees but not to the extent that would be recognized, in all probability, by the Welch bill. We felt, however, that with the Welch bill under consideration at this time and having personnel question in conference. passed the House we ought not to attempt to deal with the question be handled by the two Houses on the basis of a bill Rather we prefer that the that is being considered for personnel in all departments. Mr. O'CONNELL. I am fearful that in the event that the Welch bill should fail to pass, which would be not only unfair but deplorable, the civilian personnel would not be considered friend, that this class of our public servants be adequately in any way at all. I am very much interested, I will say to my provided for. I am for any bill that will give this class better consideration.

Mr. FRENCH. Of course, the civilian personnel, if the the civilian personnel of all the other departments of the GovernWelch bill should not pass, would be on the same footing as

ment.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. If the gentleman will permit, we could resist adjournment until something is done for these employees. Mr. O'CONNELL. I am for that.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. All right, we will join hands on that.
Mr. KINDRED. Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. FRENCH. Yes.

Mr. KINDRED. Does the gentleman think that the increases provided for in the Welch bill would adequately cover this class of employees to the extent that the gentleman's bill would cover them?

Mr. FRENCH. I think that the provisions of the Welch bill, if that bill should become the law, would probably go beyond the provisions that were in disagreement between the two Houses on the Navy bill.

The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the motion of the gentleman from Idaho to recede and concur with an amendment.

The motion was agreed to.

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Mr. FRENCH. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House recede and concur in the Senate amendment.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. Will the gentleman from Idaho yield there?

Mr. FRENCH. I shall be pleased to yield.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. This bill does not contemplate anything that was in mind or provided for in the so-called shipping bill passed the other day?

Mr. FRENCH. No; this item refers to 22 planes for the reserves that had been estimated for by the Budget, but were omitted from the bill as we reported it to the House.

First of all, we omitted the item because the House did not have authorization as we felt to consider the proposition. In the second place, we omitted the item because we felt that through administration within the department planes that

Mr. FRENCH. Mr. Speaker, I move to recede and concur in might be necessary for the reserve could be detailed from the

the Senate amendment.

The motion was agreed to.

The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the next amendment

in disagreement.

The Clerk read as follows:

Amendment No. 46: Page 33, after line 14. insert "Naval fuel depot, Melville, R. I.: Replacement of boiler plant, $65,000."

Mr. FRENCH. Mr. Speaker, I move to recede and concur with an amendment.

regular service.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. It is limited to planes?
Mr. FRENCH. To planes alone.

Mr. LAGUARDIA. I call attention to the fact that the Senate struck out the planes in the shipping bill. Mr. NEWTON. Will the gentleman yield?

Mr. FRENCH. I will.

Mr. NEWTON. Will the Naval Reserve planes be available for the Naval Reserve Militia?

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