The CHAIRMAN. As I understand, this is a list of licenses as requested by the committee at our last hearing. Mr. BONNER. This first is a report that shows the applications pending and authorizations now outstanding under the Federal water power act. In other words, it covers all outstanding permits and licenses and pending applications. It shows in each case the applicant's name, the project number, the stream on which located, the preliminary permit date, the application date, and so on. The CHAIRMAN. That is, from the beginning of the Federal Power Commission? Mr. BONNER. Well, of course, it does not include closed cases. Senator DILL. Have you got here a list of all licenses that have ever been granted by the Federal Power Commission? Mr. BONNER. No, sir. Senator DILL. Why not have that information in our record? Mr. BONNER. I shall be glad to give it to you. There is a lot of material in which there is no further interest, because the applications have been canceled or withdrawn or something of that kind. Senator DILL. I am talking about those now outstanding. Mr. BONNER. Oh, these data cover everything but cases withdrawn, canceled, surrendered, or otherwise disposed of, so that there is no longer anything about them in the active files of the commission. Senator DILL. Have you made any summary of what these charts show, as to how many have been issued each year, how many issued to one company, and so on? Mr. BONNER. Yes; I have here a list that might be of interest to the committee. The number of license authorizations outstanding on February 21 was 418, of which 102 were major projects, and of minor projects there were Senator DILL (interposing). What do you mean by major and minor projects? Mr. BONNER. Licenses covering projects with a power capacity of less than 100 horsepower are designated as minor projects. As to these, certain provisions of the act are waived, particularly in regard to accounting. They are not required to determine cost. They are simply leases for 50 years or less. The CHAIRMAN. And there have been 102 that have been granted that you call major projects? Mr. BONNER. Yes, sir. The statement covers all of them, not only the major projects, but the minor projects and the transmission line licenses. Senator DILL. How many major projects are there? Mr. BONNER. Altogether there are 418 license authorizations outstanding. The CHAIRMAN. The major items are how many? Mr. BONNER. The major projects number 102. Senator DILL. What do you mean by transmission lines? Do you give them a license through the forests for the use of the public lands? Mr. BONNER. Yes, sir. Senator DILL. You have 1,069 here. Mr. BONNER. There have been altogether 1,069 separate and independent applications filed with the Federal Power Commission, and |