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be employed to prevent this evil. For this that their Lordships would find fufficient reapurpose he law only one mode of security, fon for adopting it. which was fo to connect the public creditor Lord Loughborough expressed much sur. with the state, as to render it impracticable. prise at the return to their Lordships' mes. Having made a motion to this effect,
lage from the House of Commons. He had Lord Camelford resulted its being adopted considered that message as a ministerial mea. in the present Itage of the business, as a re- sure. From what had palled on Monday, he solution of the House.
had every right to view it in that light; and Lord Sydney expressed many obligations how that mellage should have met with such to the noble Earl (Stanhope), but was for a fate under all its circumstances, he was at moving the previous question on the mo- a loss to conjecture. He hoped the nobl tion.
Lord who had spoken last, would have at Lord Loughborough had not made up his least the courage to explain it. mind sufficiently to the present morion, and Lord Sydney vindicated his conduct, and hoped the confideration of it might be poste hoped that when the noble Lord threw any poned to some other occafion.
imputation on his courage, he would do it The Duke of Richmond opposed the le- in those places and in chat manner in which ginature adopting any permanent system as he could with most propriety resent it. unconstitutional, and as tending to deprive Lord Loughborough apologised to the nofuture legislators of their right.
ble Lord for what had fallen from him re. Lord Stormont was for a subsequent dis- specting his courage. He had said nothing cution of the refolution.
that could in any respect injure that part of Earl Stanhope having little hopes of car- his character, of which he entertained as higla rying his motion on any subsequent day, said, an opinion as any man. that he wilhed it to stand on the Journals of Lord Carlisle opposed the going into a Comthe House. Were the previous question put mittee without the grounds on which the bill on it, he should not obtain the object.
was founded being laid before the House. Tne question was then put on the original The motion being then put, that the House ‘motion, and it was, without a divifion, ne- resolve iclelf into a Committee, it was agreed gatived.
to without a division. The Duke of Richmond moved, that there Lord Stormont then gave bis opinion at should be laid before the House, a copy of large on the bill. He next went into a mithe report of the Select Committee of the
nute discullion of the report of the Committee House of Commons, which motion was of the House of Commans, which he treated agrecd to.
in the light of a pamphlet. He recapitulateu
the various arguments urged in the other The answer to their Lordships message to House against the statements contained in it, the House of Commons on the Surplus bill, and suggested that the operations of France declining the transmisfion of any grounds of relative to its fortifications at Cherburgh, and judgment on which they had palled the above on the continent opposite to us, indicatos bill being read, a thort convertation took warlike intentions ; and that there was on place, relative to the House refolving itself this account no probability of our peice-ettainto a Committee that day for the further con- blishment being reduced. fideration of it.
Lord Loughborongli, in a speech of fome Lord Stormont appealed to their Lordships length, went mco the detail of the hill, and sentiments of propriety, whether such a attempted to show that it was founded in illum measure would be der.ent, and asked their five principles-- It was a mi mument whicta Lordships, whether they were prepared to had been built like a cattle in the air, without go blindfold into a mealure, with respect to a foundation, ile laid it had already given i the grounds of which they had been denied false rise to the funds, and this rise would of that informa:ion which they had reason to itself defeat the very object of the bill, as the expect; anů as none of his Majesty's mi. Commiffioner's entrutted with the manageniiters were in the House at that period to ment of the surplus mult buy at answer any questions which might be lug- much bigher than the real value of the stock, gested relative to it, he thought it would be
taken in comparison with the proportional improper to take the business into further
value of other articles; for the fact was, consideration.
that fouce the scheme respecting the finking Lord Sydney coming in soon after, apo. fund bad becu agitated stuck had risen, and he logized very satisfactorily for his absence, and
made no doubt would rule far beyonw the rae declared himself ready to give every informa- lue of any other article. tion in his power on the subject. He ex- The Duke of Richmond attributed this cirplained the Daire up the bill, and hoped cumstance to the very extraordinary balance
a rate 1
in our favour on the exchange, which had 1,500,000l. by loans or Exchequer bills, to amounted, in a certain period, to n10 less a sum be charged on the first aid granted in the next than ten per cent.
fellions of Parliament-Tlic bill for raising The bill was then read, and passed in the 1,000,00ol. in the like manner.-The naCommittee; after which the House was re. tional debt bill.-The Gibraltar head-money fumed and adjourned.
bill.- The Blackfriars-bridge bill.-TbeelMAY 25,
con inclosure bill.--The Idle of Man fogar This day his Majelly went in his usual state bill.—The bill for-aldering the days of page to the House of Peers. As foon as the king ment of annuities.-The bill for extending the was seated on the throne, a melsage was sent acts relating to courts of conscience ; and the to the Commons, commanding their altend- bill for regulating manifests. ance, In obedience to the royal mandate, . the members of the lower House appeared at The order of the day being read for the the bar, when their Speaker addressed his second reading of the Pawnbrokers bill, Majesty as follows:
Counsel were called in, and being heard in Moji Gracious Sovercign,
support of the Bill, counsel were heard against “ Your faithful Commons have pafled a it. Upon which bill, intituled, “ An Act for veiting certain Lord Loughborough rose, and, in a speech sums in Commissioners, at the end of every of great perspicuity, pointed out the improquarter of a year, to be by them applied to priety of the act. His Lordship clearly thewed the reduction of the Nacional Debt;" by which its evident partiality against the inferior order they have manifetted their attention to your of society, and moved tht it might be reMajetty's recommendation, at the opening jecled. of this feflion, for, eftablishing a fixed plan Lord Rawdon apologized for having taken for the reduction of the National Debt. an active part in favour of the bill. He ac.
"By the unanimity which attended the knowledged that Lord Loughborough's oblait and most important stage of this Bill, they servations were very prevailing; but be have given the most decisive proof, that they wished to go into a Committee on the bill, have but one heart and one voice, in the main- when all the precautions might be put into tenance of the public credit, and prosperity of effect. their country.
Lord Bathurst left the woolfack, and spoke “ The public credit of the nation, which is in very strong terms against the bill. the result of just and honourable dealing, is The Duke of Richmond and Lord Hawke liuw guarded by an additional security--and spoke in favour of it. the fucure prosperi'y of this country will effec. Lord Loughborough replied, and the 1] tually be provided for, when it is confidered, was rejected without a division. that for the purpose of inding the cause of
JUNE 2, the continuance of this measure most power- Adjourned to Monday the 12th. fully with posterily, your faithful Commons
JUNE 13. have, to the justice and good policy of it, added This day by virtue of a Commission from the authority of their own example:
bis Majesty, the Royal alient was given to ii facieille j.bet.
An act for granting to his Majesty an ade “ They have not been discouraged by the ditional duty upon batens and deals inironted. burther imposed during the last ten years, An act for the further support and cofrom fubmittins, in the present time, and in couragement of the fisheries carried on in the the lotit est peace, to new, and the pollibility Greenland seas and Davis's freights. of vier bustiens; ther object being to attain An act to continue, and render more ela bluutin por their country, moru favourable fectual, an act for the encouragement of the to lies ucfcice and glory in the event of future growth of hemp and fax. €:Nevencies
An act for the further relief of Jebtors, " A po foliorcuable in its principle, and with respect to the imprisonment of the I focuncture to the future happine's atid tately perfons, and to oblige debiors, who tha! of the little ni, mit be, in the liglieft de- continue in execution in prison beyond a cer. blee, in tiparbie to the Father of his people. tain time, and for sums not exceeding - List
Coins chest confidence, in the name of ail are mentioned in the act, to make discovery pie conmous Great Britain I render the of, and deliver upon oath, their eitates for !!! in your Milly ; to wbici), with all bu. their creditors benefit. downsite your faitistul Commous deve your An act for paving the footways and porn Ver's Roxel Allent.”
Bages, and for better cleaning and light ng
HOUSE OF COMMON S.
Hastings, praying to be heard by himself or R. Gilbert brought up the report of the Counsel. The motion was agreed to ; the effectual means to prevent the present frauds conversation between Mr. Burke, Major which exist in the adulteration of wine, Scott, Mr. Pitt, &c. the motion for hearing which was read and agreed to.
Mr. Hastings by himself or Counsel palled Mr. Sheridan desired to know whether unanimously. The House then resolved itself there was any account in the House of the into a Committee, the Hon. Mr. St. John in number of licences which had been granted the chair, for the purpose of examining evito persons seling wine; and on it being dence on the business of Mr. Hastings. Major hinied that there was not, he moved, that Marsac was called to the bar and examined ; there be laid before the House an account of and after the investigation of a variety of the number of wine licences granted within other matters, connected with the subjcát of these last five years, which was granted. He the impeachment, the House adjourned. then wilhed to be informed whether the bill
MAY 10. was meant to be printed ; and being answer. The order of the day having been read for ed in the negative, he gave notice that he hearing Mr. Hastings in answer to the last should, whenever the bill came to be de- charge against him, presented by Mr. Burke, bated, move for it to be printed, and at the Mr. Hastings was called in. When he got same time take the sense of the House on the to the bar, be informed the House, that as propriety of printing all tax bills. For his soon as ever a copy of the charge was deliown pari he thought that they, of allochers, vered to him, which was only on Monday, ought to be well understood, and made pub. he had set about drawing up an answer to it, lic before passed. ----Mr. Pict answered, and in that business he had been employed * Very well."
fince, both night and day. He was conse. The report of the Surplus or new Sinke queatly alınolt exhausted with the fatigue, ing.Fund Bill was brought up and read. which made him apprehend that he should Several gentlemen had motions to make for not have strength enough to read the whole leave to bring up new clauses to be inserted of his performance: he therefore requelled in the bill; but Mr. Pulteney was the first to that the House would indulge him fó far as propuse one: it had for its object to cause to suffer him to deliver it in writing to the the notice of the intention of Parliament to Clerk; adding, that he would receive this pay of any stock that should be at or above indulgence as a very great favour from the par, to be given as usual by the Speaker, and House. His request was granted without not by the Commissioners, who, ac ording any opposition. He then put his ansuer into to the present plan, were to be empowered the hands of the Clerk, and, bowing to the by occasional A'&s of Parliament, co be pafled House, retired. for the purpose, to issue the same. Upon The House went into a Committee to take this a conversation took place between Mr. into confideration the duty on battens and Pitt, Mr. Fox, Sir Grey Cooper, Mr. Demp. deals. fter, Mr. Sheridan, and others, in which the Mr. Pitt said, that persons concerned in only object that all appeared to have in view the trade had told him, that it would be more was, who should most scrupuloully guard convenient, if an increase of revenue were to against any measure that might bear even the be derived from battens and deals, that an semblance of a deviation from the strict let. addition to the prescat unequal duty should ter of the engagements made with the public be made, than that any discrimination of lize creditors, under the faith of the nation. Mr. should be adopted. To their opinion he Pitt at lait observed, that as the subje&t was would give way, though he thought his own delicate, and all clauses in a bill of so much a better; and therefore moved that a duty of moment ought to be very maturely coolider. 55. per cent. in addition to the prisene duty, ed before they were admitted, it would be be laid on all battens, &c. imported. better for the House to take time to consider The question was then put and carried of the business, than to adopt, in a hurry, without further conversation; and the House what might be afterwards found to be inju- being rela med, resolved itself into a comrious to public credit. He moved, therefore, mittee on the militia bill, Ms. Powdey in that the debate on the further consideration the chair, when a very irregular conversation of the report Mould be adjourned to Wed. took place. A clause being proposed for nesday next. The motion pated without empowering all Justices of the Peace to oppofition.
act as Deputy Lieutenants for the purposes of Major Scott made several remarks on tbe the bill, it was opposed, and rejected on a charge delivered by Mr. Burke on Friday lalt division, concerning the unfuri unate situation of Fi.
25 200iah Cawn. He concluded by moving
Nocs for leave to present a petition from Mr.
Mr. Pitt moved another clause, the object found. He stated a circumstance, that when of which was to make the service in the they were put aside by junior officers being militia to be in future for live inflead of raised above them, they were not admitted THREE years; at the expiration of which to that pay to which their situation justly intime all who served for themselves should titled them. For as such Captains were never be intiiled to their discharge; but those who known to serve, they should be put upon the acted as substitutes should be compellable in fuperannuated list of Admirals; bur in tead time of war, rebellion, or insurrection, 10 of this they had only their hall-pay. This ferve to the end of such war, &c. On this was ill-treating a description of men that clause the Committee divided, when there delerved better treatment from their coun. appeared,
try. And for what? he asked. For fighting Ayes
our battles, and preserving the existence of Noes
the nation. To them they were indebted for Majority 40
the places they (the Members) then possessed. A third clause was ihen moved for com- Ile then read a memorial from a Capt. Bropelling officers in the milieia to swAr 10 die, who had been at the taking of several the qualifications they deliver in ; but se. places in the wars before last ; had taken jected on the principle, that men whom himself several vessels, and some of superior HONOUR would not bind, could not be force; had loft an arm in the service; and bound by an oath ; and such ought not to be yet he was not thought a proper object to be admitted into an honourable service. put on the superannuated list. After reading
An altercation afterwards took place be this memorial, he made two motions to the iween Mr. Pitt and Mr. Sheridan, concerning following purport : the mode adopied in the enforcing of the That an humble Address might be presentlaw; when, after proceeding through various ed to his Majesty, praying to admit that such other clauses, Mr. Pitt, from a persuasion Captains as were then put aside, might be that the business could not be finally adjusted placed on the said lift. -The otber motion that evening, moved, that it be postponed till was to raise the half-pay of the other Capo Tuesday next, and that the Chairman report tains from eight up ten shillings per day. progress, and ask leave to fit again, which Captain Luttrell observed there were great was agreed to.
objects to be done for the improvement of MAY 11.
the navy, which, he said, should be fub Mr. Jolliffe moved, That a Committee mitted in the consideration of the noble might be appointed for the purpose of en- Lord (Lord Howe) who had the controul of quiring into the necesity and expediency of this department; and he trusted, from bis purchasing the house lately belonging to Sir being himself an officer, and his great abili. Robert Barker, for the purpose of converting ties and experience in the profesion, that he it into offices for the Adiniralty,
would fec great and efsential regulations Lord Surrey seconded the motion. adopted.
Lord Newhaven thought the motion was Captain Bowyer bad po obje&tion againk exceedingly necessary. He had examined the admitting of lo gallant and deserving an the ground, and he was assured the whole officer as Captain Brodie to be put upon tbe expence of erecting the intended offices fuperannuated lift ; all his objection was, that would not amount to more than five thou- it might be a precedent for a very impolite Sand pounds. Two thousand pounds, he laid, innovation. was the purchase of the ground and dwell- Mr. Pitt agreed with what the Righe *ing, and ihrce thousand pourds would be Hon. Gentleman had observed, and upon the whole expence of converting it into the this principle moved the order of the day. intended offices. He therelore thouxht it Sir John Jarvis and Mr. Sheridan spoke extremely necessary that a Committee Thould in favour of the motion, and Mr. Pitt rebe appointed, in order to enquire into the plied. ' reason of such an estimate being inade as After a further debatc beti*cen Admiral had been laid before the House, viz. 13,000l. Hood, Mr. Sheridan, Captain Macbride, and for the purpose.
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the qucs Mr. Brett urged the necessity, from the tion was put, and the House divided, situation of the now exífting offic. s.
For the motion
59 After a further short conversation between Against it
35 Mr. Brett, Lord Newhaven, and Mr. Jolliffe,
Majority -24 the question was put, and the House divided. The order of the day for the attendance of The numbers were,
Mr. Hastings being read, he was called in. Agaiost the motion
and delivered in minutes of his answer to For it
the charge delivered in on Monday lait by Majority - 47 Mr. Burke. -Minutes read, and ordered to Captain Macbride inen rose to make a be printed. motion refpc&ting the Captains of the Navy. Capt. Jacques was then called to the bus He said they were in a situation in which no and examined. His examination continued other public description of men could be until near ninc o'clock, in the courk of The Capo
which objections and replies were made to 25,000l. be granted for carrying on the aimolt every question, and the witness was building at Somerset House. continually obliged to withdraw.
That 13:000l. be granted for supporting tain's evidence being closed, Mr. Burkc de- the African fettlemenis. clared he should not trouble the House at Thal 16811. 183. 4d. be granted for depresent with any further exaîninations. fraying the extra-expences of prosecuting considerable time was then employed by Mr, offenders against the laws rela:ing to coin. Burke and the clerks af the table in selecting That 14.9391. be granted for defraying the passages from India papers.
extra-expences of the Mint in 1785. Alter which Major Scott informed the That 41061. be granted as a compensation House, that as several witnesses were direct- to Joseph Lodin Maevoir for his loss by the ed to attend the Houfc, by the defire of Mr. seizure of his ship in 1776, by Governor Burke, and that gentleman had not thought
Macnamara. proper to call them to the bar, he apprehend- That 127,1381. be granted to his Majesty ed any Member might call such witnesses to to make good the deficiency on grants of last any point that might appear necessary to fa- year. tisiy the House as to the guilt or innocence of The House h ving proceedid to take into Mr. Hastings. Mr. Burke gave his assent, congderation the report on the Sinking Fund and Major Balfour was called to the bar. bill,
As this evidence feeind to give rather a Mr. Pulceney said, he had a clause to pronew turn to the conduct of Mr. Hastings, we pose, which would render ii very difficuli for thall, with Itrict impartiality, give the sub- future Parliaments to defeat the operation of Itance of the leading part of his evidence as the bill; for it would make it necessary that follows:
they should give those occasional directions to That he had resided in India upwards of the Commissioners, relative to the redemp20 years, and was in the country of the Ro- tion of capital ttock above par, without hillas at the timc of the war; that he did not which chcy could not under the laws now know of any wanton cruelties in the conduct in existence redeem any fuch stock. The of that war; that when the army tirit arrived clause was, that in care Parliament should several villages were deserted, and some neglect for a certain time to give those dis ouirages might have been committed, but rečtions, the Commissioners should be emthat he did not know of any town or village powered to redeem Itock above par, without that was destroyed ; that at the first aların any directions. As the redemption mult take the hasnand men and manufacturers flew on place in fuch a cale, at a great lofs to the all (des from their dwellings, but after the public, it was reasonable to presume that defcat of the Rohillas and the death of their chis clause would compel Ministers 10 proGeneral, the Nabob Vizier iffued general pole,' as occasion should require, that the orders to protect the natives, and accordingly proper directions should from time to time they returned to their habitations; that by be given to the Commiflioners. He then the treaty of peace which followed that war, moved for leave to bring up the clause, it was itipulated that the Robiilas Thould which was granted ; and, after having been leave the country and croische Ganges, which twice read, it was admitted into the bill. was accordingly done cy about
Mr. Fox then propoled another clausen them, including women and children ; that which was, that the Commissioners might be they were not moleited in their retreat ; and permitted to subscribe such money as should that the country of Rohilound, when he be in their hands to any future loan. This marched back, was in as good a ltate of cul he thought would be one way of preventing tivation as when they catered it. These arc any future Ministers from diverring this the striking features of Major Balfour's evi- linking fund in time of war from the purdence.
poles for which it was now going to be in
ilicuted, as they would have the full benefit A motion was made, and the question of this money in the loan : and the public proposed, that the Scamen's bill be now read would be equally benefited, inasmuch as a second time. An amendment was proposed this mode would' keep down fro tanto the to leave out now, and intert this day three accumulation of the national debt. By bormonths. The quellion was put, that now Towing from ourselves we could always bor. Hand part of the mouion. The House divi- row on better terms than from others; and ded, Ayes, 23; Noes, 89. The main quel- we should be able to make a better bargain, cion was pui, and agreed 10.
inalmuch as the loan would be less by lo In a'Cominittee on ways and means, re- much, ihan if inc Commiflionc rs were presoived that 1.500,00ol. be raised by Exche- cluded from subscribing. If a bonus was quer bills, to be charged on the firit aids in given upon a loan, then the public would iac next sellion.
fave as much upon it as would be due on the That 1,000,000l. be raised in the same sum fubscribed by the Commissioners. But
it was always to be underltood, that though In a Committee of Supply, resulved that the public should be the lender on those oc
4 »,000 of